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  1. 10-07-2014 07:57 AM #1
    Altanas
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    Hmm, class AF... Wonder if this is an indication of bringing classes in line with jobs
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  2. 10-07-2014 08:13 AM #2
    Ryans
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altanas View Post
    Hmm, class AF... Wonder if this is an indication of bringing classes in line with jobs
    Every class has had their own "AF" since 1.0. The ilvl 70 Gryphonskin, Darksteel, Heavy Darksteel, and Vanya sets were originally class exclusive, but were made usable by the job in 2.0. They are effectively the AF of classes. The Rogue set will undoubtedly be the same.
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  3. 10-10-2014 06:41 PM #3
    Radacci
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    It's almost like there is a fan festival in less than 2 weeks. Could you possibly for one second consider that just maybe they are saving the big reveal for the massive in-person event? That might be expecting too much though.
    uhm, that's unrealistic expectation
    they already announced new coil, new class/job, new primal, new dungeons; what more would you expect?
    if they haven't already announced it by now, then don't expect anything major.
    i'd guess it will be some more QoL stuff, new crafting recipes, maybe higher DoH/L ilv gear. new main quest, some side quests, new pets, etc.
    though, there's 2 open job-stone slots, so...maybe...THF, you can have this.
    I think revealing info about expansion, is quite big enough of an announcement...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hik0 View Post
    - you need to collect <element> energy from <element>crystals in order to summon <element> Primal.
    - there is no in ffxiv.
    => No dark primal !

    - Ifrit/Titan/Garuda 1st fights were 4man lvlcapped story fight, ultima was a dongeon boss
    - we have access to harder 8man trials for them .
    => it's not because the first encounter is a 4man/dungeon boss that he won't make a come back as a stronger trail fight!
    yet.
    there's the Ascians, though, and whatever god they are worshiping.
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  4. 10-07-2014 09:09 PM #4
    Tupsi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altanas View Post
    Hmm, class AF... Wonder if this is an indication of bringing classes in line with jobs
    Nope, as that would defeat the purpose of jobs altogether - Also, Class AF started in 1.x, the 'Vanya' set for example was largely seen as the THM AF set.
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  5. 10-07-2014 09:19 PM #5
    TheMunimai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Nope, as that would defeat the purpose of jobs altogether - Also, Class AF started in 1.x, the 'Vanya' set for example was largely seen as the THM AF set.
    It's weird - I always associated the all in one "cowls" with thm - especially that red robe with the gold eye mask
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  6. 10-07-2014 10:34 PM #6
    Aegis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Nope, as that would defeat the purpose of jobs altogether - Also, Class AF started in 1.x, the 'Vanya' set for example was largely seen as the THM AF set.
    That's because, back in Version 1, BLM didn't offer enough extra DPS to offset the advantages of Raise. And the ability to stack materia with no stat caps meant a decent triple meld was better than Darklight which was the best non-crafted gear at the time.
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  7. 10-07-2014 10:44 PM #7
    Velhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    That's because, back in Version 1, BLM didn't offer enough extra DPS to offset the advantages of Raise. And the ability to stack materia with no stat caps meant a decent triple meld was better than Darklight which was the best non-crafted gear at the time.
    Garuda and 17-minute speed runs would like a word with you. Not to mention you had WHM, BRD, and PLD at the time who could raise, potentially having four people with raise if you had two healers in the party. People wanted all the DPS they can get. I barely saw anyone play the class version of anything after jobs came out.
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  8. 10-08-2014 02:14 AM #8
    MartaDemireux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    I barely saw anyone play the class version of anything after jobs came out.
    Aegis has the right of it, less so on the Raise, moreso on the melds and DPS. THM could put out much higher numbers than BLM due to melding Vanya and being able to cross-class PGL/LNC/ARC abilities. The 5 you lost from your job were nothing compared to the 10 you gained from being a class. BRD/ARC were in a similar position. For Dzaemal Darkhold runs it was common to have 2 WHM, 1-2 PLD (1 as a backup) a1-2 BRD and the rest ARC since ARC could pull much higher numbers than BRD.

    We can still somewhat do this today. MRD and ACN can both pull equal to higher numbers than WAR/SMN but again it takes a lot of perfectly melded gear. Well I should say we could as I haven't read much about it lately. But in any case it could bring MRD DPS to just under DRG a few months ago IIRC. But who brings a tank to do a DPS's job? lol.
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