Thread: Patch 2.4 Preview

Originally Posted by Renik

because as i said they have been oddly quiet about it

It's not at all odd when there is a series of large public events coming up where there will be thousands of fans present to hear the information first hand. This isn't Pax or Gamescon where they will be there for other games. Everyone present will be there specifically for Final Fantasy XIV ARR. Them holding this kind of info back until that event isn't even remotely odd. If anything it should have been expected considering the timing of the event and the patch.

Originally Posted by Tiggy

It's not at all odd when there is a series of large public events coming up where there will be thousands of fans present to hear the information first hand. This isn't Pax or Gamescon where they will be there for other games. Everyone present will be there specifically for Final Fantasy XIV ARR. Them holding this kind of info back until that event isn't even remotely odd. If anything it should have been expected considering the timing of the event and the patch.

true, but they had 2 LLs, letter from the producer and the dev blog false leaks to give us info about whats coming, as you said this "season" to name it, is plagued with events, but at this point, with the update being slightly delayed already we know nothing besides of what we already knew since the E3 which occurred some time before 2.3.

If they bring something huge in the next LL i'll be more than happy, but at this point, and reading the little information about what will be discussed during the event, i must say i expect to be disappointed.

Again, i understand your point, we can't know.

Unless they reveal that there is actually another class or job coming in 2.4 or SURPISE GOLD SAUCER IS HERE, then I don't expect much. I mean I am sorry, but SE has a trackrecord of being extremely underwhelming after a lot of hype. E3 being a great example when they go out and say "dagger and gun class sooner than you think" just before E3 and then it ends up being a one class -> one job reveal (and a *piip* you to those who wanted THF) when because of their previous statement most people probably expected two classes and maybe even up to four jobs since the only new class ever added before had two jobs to it. I mean I wonder what they thought "sooner than you think" meant for most because since they have said they will be adding classes even before the expansion I was honestly expecting more by now. SE likes to hype and not live up to it. By now I expect "big reveals" to be underwhelming even though I of course hold out hope for more, since you never know, but I am not going to hype 2.4 until they actually deliver.

As it is, it is looking to be a very average patch for anyone not interested in NIN. Then again, who can complain about getting more rehashed HM dungeons to farm no drops but fun tomes. Lol, nah it is not that bad I am being overly pessemistic and exaggerating, but I do hope they deliver this time around with the "reveal".

Originally Posted by Rumpelstiltzkin

Unless they reveal that there is actually another class or job coming in 2.4 or SURPISE GOLD SAUCER IS HERE, then I don't expect much. I mean I am sorry, but SE has a trackrecord of being extremely underwhelming after a lot of hype.

I would like to blame the community members who tend to over hype and exaggerate things.

Originally Posted by Renik

If they bring something huge in the next LL i'll be more than happy, but at this point, and reading the little information about what will be discussed during the event, i must say i expect to be disappointed.

I try to live a bit more of a cup is half full kind of life. If you expect to be disappointed then disappointment will follow you everywhere.

Originally Posted by Xystic

I would like to blame the community members who tend to over hype and exaggerate things.

This. Square announces something once and then two months of hype from the community ensues. The disappointment is directly a result of the players over hyping and building unrealistic expectations.

Originally Posted by Tiggy

This. Square announces something once and then two months of hype from the community ensues. The disappointment is directly a result of the players over hyping and building unrealistic expectations.

This is exactly what happened with Personal Housing. The only problem with this as Yoshi-P is that he has to release *something* into the information stream to keep players interested. Otherwise you'll start to see people complain that there's no information being released (pretty much all of FFXI).

Originally Posted by ZReport

This is exactly what happened with Personal Housing. The only problem with this as Yoshi-P is that he has to release *something* into the information stream to keep players interested. Otherwise you'll start to see people complain that there's no information being released (pretty much all of FFXI).

Exactly. The only thing they should have done was let people know personal and guild housing would now share the same zones since they did say previously they wouldn't. Otherwise simply having more available housing zones is all they could really do to improve things, and even then people seem to expect there to be enough for nearly everyone. Anyone with knowledge of servers and capacity would have known ahead of time that it's going to be impossible for that to happen. So here we had a situation where the player base wasn't going to be happy no matter what, but that didn't stop expectations from running amok. People need to douse their expectations with a bit more reality.

Originally Posted by ZReport

This is exactly what happened with Personal Housing. The only problem with this as Yoshi-P is that he has to release *something* into the information stream to keep players interested. Otherwise you'll start to see people complain that there's no information being released (pretty much all of FFXI).

The problem with personal housing is the price, they have been released with a price that is higher than the FC houses 2 moths after their release, of course, the influx of gil is higher as well, personal houses are way cheaper than the FC ones were, the price is the same but the influx of gil have changed, that's what the player-base fails to understand, we should blame both, Yoshida for not using the correct words, and the players for nor being correctly informed, it was clear that the personal houses would be located in the same wards the FC ones are, and with the amount of gil we can earn now doing just our routines the price would't change.

Also

Originally Posted by ZReport

(pretty much all of FFXI).

This is out of place, it's not only offensive but also a lie, FFXI players are used to no see new updates or info for a year+, that's how ffxi updates worked.

It seems people have forgotten that Yoshi straight up said "[Rogue/Ninja will be the last class/job to be added before the expansion] (3.0)."

Granted after the personal housing fiasco I don't know how much we can actually put into that statement but nonetheless he did say no more classes/jobs until the expansion where we will be getting both a tank and a healer. I don't believe he clarified if they would come with the expansion or during the 3.X series.

expansion "isnt" that far away , 2.4 > 2.5 (CT/2.0 story ending) > 3.0