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スレッド: Undercutting

  1. #81
    Player
    Moqi's Avatar
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    Goji Degotye
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    Quote 引用元:Noll 投稿を閲覧
    So who's buying them is making more and more money off you.
    no1curr. that's the thing.
    (2)

  2. #82
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    Razzle's Avatar
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    Razu Erisu
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    Omega
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    Quote 引用元:Noll 投稿を閲覧
    So who's buying them is making more and more money off you.
    Then why are you complaining? You make money off me, don't come and complain on the forums on undercutts lol
    That's what I'm saying, it's a win-win. You get gil off of me, and I get a fast clean up on my inventory. We both happy

    Quote 引用元:Noll 投稿を閲覧
    Anyway, if you keep undercutting obsessively your goods even if ur not selling them, you are the one obsessed with gil gains.
    I don't even. How am I obssesed with gil if I don't care about it...? I really would like to know lol... As I said, I only care to clean my inventory, making gil on the way is a bonus. I even discard or NPC most of the stuff I think not even worth it... Really curious as to why you find me obssesed with gil XD

    The obssesed ones are the one making this thread everyday and standing in front of the market board refreshing it lol
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  3. #83
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    baopee's Avatar
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    Baopee Dhen
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    Like others have said, just buy them and resell them, it is all depends on how much you want it to sell for, and it never equals how much people want to pay.

    competitions are good for consumers, and dont forget you are also a consumer. I dont think you want to overpay for anything right?
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    2014/10/07 23:53; baopee が最後に編集

  4. #84
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    Kira-Yagami's Avatar
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    Light Yagami
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    Tonberry
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    Quote 引用元:Dilu_Bakari 投稿を閲覧
    So the inferno Horn usually sells for 1.2 mil at the least. So people are so desperate for gil you will undercut someone and the idiots follow along with this clown, to go as low as 900k? Where they do that at?
    Your topic is a joke. If no one is buying your item at 1.2mil. It means that its no longer worth 1.2mil, which is why your competition is selling cheaper in hope someone will buy it. Instead of getting angry why people is selling cheaper, WHY ARE YOU SELLING IT SO HIGH AT 1.2MIL!?
    (3)

  5. #85
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    Shadray's Avatar
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    Quote 引用元:DefendPopPunk 投稿を閲覧
    Oh dang why didn't I think of that. It's always been done so there's no problems guys. I should use this on anyone who's ever been discriminated against.
    You're comparing undercutting using virtual currency in a computer game to discrimination.

    A cynical person may say you just threw that word in there to try to add weight to your argument.

    I'm sure you wouldn't do that though.
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  6. #86
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    Fyrebrand's Avatar
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    2013/08/23
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    Friel Wyndor
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    Quote 引用元:Dashuto 投稿を閲覧
    It is quite possible I will be found out for posting this.

    But I have made sure my retainers... are notorious
    I always use them to make a point
    I am willing to crash/ruin the specific market we share just to teach them that lesson
    I make them regret that thoroughly
    I quickly ruin their life
    I will be as ruthless as I need to be to come out on top.
    zzzzzzzz -- wha?? Huh? Did you say something? I nodded off there.

    Sorry, but no one cares. No one knows who you or your retainers are. You are imagining things. Someone's item failing to sell right away is not ruining their life or teaching them a lesson. Players will continue to sell items for whatever prices they want, which is how it should be.


    Quote 引用元:Dashuto 投稿を閲覧
    I'm honestly not so ruthless in anything else but the gil- if that means anything at all to you.
    It doesn't.
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    2014/10/08 01:06; Fyrebrand が最後に編集

  7. #87
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    DefendPopPunk's Avatar
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    Carson Warson
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    Quote 引用元:Shadray 投稿を閲覧
    You're comparing undercutting using virtual currency in a computer game to discrimination.

    A cynical person may say you just threw that word in there to try to add weight to your argument.

    I'm sure you wouldn't do that though.
    I figured you might say this. As ridiculous as a comparison as it seems, so is the justification that you used. You're right, I could have used any word. The fact is, "it's what always happens" doesn't excuse any type of behavior solely on that basis nor does it mean that there isn't a problem with said behavior. It's too bad that point is so easily distracted from lol. And a cynical person might say you used the old "don't compare games to real life" card, but I'm sure you wouldn't do that though.
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  8. #88
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    Niwashi's Avatar
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    2013/08/26
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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Quote 引用元:Dilu_Bakari 投稿を閲覧
    So the inferno Horn usually sells for 1.2 mil at the least. So people are so desperate for gil you will undercut someone and the idiots follow along with this clown, to go as low as 900k? Where they do that at?
    If it's sold before at 1.2 mil, then there are likely still some players willing to pay that much. However, there are also a lot of players who would like one, but are either unable or unwilling to pay that much. Some of them might however be willing to pay 900K. All those who would pay 900K but can't or won't pay 1.2M have just been added to the buying pool by the player who was willing to undercut that far. More potential buyers means less time until one of them comes across the MB listing and buys it, resulting in a quicker profit to the seller.

    That's the logic behind any large undercuts. The 1 gil lower style of undercutting is simply an attempt to stay at the top of the list to be the next sold item, but it doesn't really impact how soon the next item will sell. The significant drops like this example are an attempt to increase the number of potential buyers, so that it will sell faster. Some players desire a quick profit more than a larger but long delayed profit. (It also means this type of large undercut makes a lot more sense on big-ticket rare items than on common but high-demand items.)
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    2014/10/08 01:06; Niwashi が最後に編集

  9. #89
    Player kidvideo's Avatar
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    Quote 引用元:DefendPopPunk 投稿を閲覧
    Oh dang why didn't I think of that. It's always been done so there's no problems guys. I should use this on anyone who's ever been discriminated against.
    This is the most ignorant comment I've read in a long time. And that is saying something, considering I've read a couple of posts by that whiny kid who got banned recently...
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  10. #90
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    Quote 引用元:kidvideo 投稿を閲覧
    This is the most ignorant comment I've read in a long time. And that is saying something, considering I've read a couple of posts by that whiny kid who got banned recently...
    What's your point? I shall edit my post to make it clearer for people like yourself.
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