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  1. #31
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    I'm not even sure where to start with this thread; I've rarely seen so much blatantly bad advice.

    - Do utilize CS. It's there for a reason, and it absolutely should be used in conjunction with Holy for trash pulls. Not only is Holy a ridiculously effective crowd control, no one needs healing while everything is stunned all to hell, which means that the healer needs to be pulling some DPS weight.

    - Always begin and end pulls by Stoneskinning the tank. It is always worth doing and makes runs smoother. The tank should have SS on him/her as the last mob dies so that the dungeon can continue uninterrupted. Stoneskin mid-fight is generally only for specific mechanics.

    - Swiftcast is a non-negotiable.
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  2. #32
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    Odd's Avatar
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    Tiri Thon
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    Goblin
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post

    Usually I use it once in conjunction with instant cast, for the 4s stun duration immediately after all the mobs are in position. Gives me time to heal the tank back up and put the HoT on.
    That's crazy talk. If you swiftcast Holy, the mobs will remained stunned until a split second before the next one. You might as well do two for sure. But as I said at the start of this thread, I use it a minimum of 4 times, 6-10 on huge packs when SoS and benediction are ready. When using Holy, WHM can be the top DPS against trash mobs, by a HUGE margin if there's no BLM in the group, and even still against the vast majority of BLM's.

    I play on ps4, so good luck accusing me of parsing, but I play with someone who does parse, and I regularly do 1000+ dps on trash (big pulls). Nobody dies except the mobs, which die a hell of a lot faster than if I stood there waiting for the tank to take damage.
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  3. #33
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    Lyrica_Ashtine's Avatar
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Phoenix
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    Marauder Lv 1
    Thank you! Finally some people who make sense with their posts!

    Yes, most of the advice (if not all) is terrible advice on the previous three pages (page 1-3). Regen tank before pull? Medica II before pull? Divine Seal Cure II spam? Unnecessary and this will create an unnecessarily large risk of getting yourself killed and thus your entire party. Don't even Regen the tank during large pulls unless he/she tagged every single mob with a shield lob/tomahawk or flash/overpower. Performing any action on the tank while in progress of pulling will divert the attention of untagged mobs towards you, rather than the tank.

    That said, if the tank isn't tagging everything while pulling and are prone to dying before they reach the end, it's their own fault: Staggerish movement, no use of CDs if it's an exceptionally long pull (Amdapor Keep), inability to tag everything so you can do anything mid pull if necessary.

    Whichever approach you decide to go for once everything is gathered up is up to you.
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