PvP dead once again?

[Sanghelios]

Since ...

And this was the biggest fail Square could do on frontlines. Now there are tons of people who want to farm thier nexus light, but they dont even need to care about the result of the match, because the light is the same, no matter if your team wins frontlines or not. So you have now half a team of real pvp players who wants to win and the other half of your group are ingnorant people, who just want to finish frontlines so they can get thier light. I dont get it why Square did this? I mean, sure nothing against farming light on frontlines, but why cant they do it so, that even a light farmer has do win frontlines to get the best light (Idk how this light farming exactly works, because i dont work on relic weapon)

This also leads to groups without any healer in it, because its not important if your team wins or not and so on nobody wants to change thier class to healer. And thats just stupid and ridiculous.

[NyneAlexander]

This also leads to groups without any healer in it, because its not important if your team wins or not and so on nobody wants to change thier class to healer. And thats just stupid and ridiculous.

This part, I totally agree with. It sucks, but it is what it is.

But, don't assume that just because farming light is incentive to do pvp means that everyone in there with a novus weapon is terrible. I admit, I'm not a serial pvpr. But I get it, and plenty of others do. As long as people listen and follow directions, you'll have a fighting chance. People in my games yesterday listened up, went to middle for the drones/nodes, fought inside of the capture circles, didn't chase people, and we won a few. Sure, there were people afking, trying to farm cheap light. But there have been afkers and dumb players since day one. And, being completely honest, Frontlines isn't at all the most efficient way to farm light, even when it does have a bonus. But it gives people like me who like both pve and pvp a reason to go nuts on pvp for a bit.

[Lemuria]

To be fair, PvP was never really alive. It was on life support when they released Frontlines, and FL just wasn't enough to keep it afloat. Honestly, who cares about wolf marks in this game when they do literally nothing for Frontlines? It's a meaningless currency. The only thing I ever used my marks for was buying up gear for desynthesis!

The PvP itself is horribly unbalanced, and will remain thus forever since it's simply impossible to balance. Tanks will never be tanks, healers will never get to do much actual healing, and DPS will always be the class of choice because a rubbish offense is better than a great defense.

[Recaldy]

It's gotta be your data center. Balmung doesn't take that long unless you're in a full party.

[Gilraen]

It also doesn't help that the only people that want PvP amount to a paltry '1%' of the game's population. I do Frontlines not because I love PvP, I don't. I do love party content and it's alot of fun to do something with others. Yeah, I don't see the opposing parties as people, I see them as 'smarter' mobs because it's how it feels. I like that, Frontlines doesn't feel like PvP to me. The goal isn't to murder eachother, it's to hold the bases and maybe kill the ancient machines. But that's not what the '1%' want, they just want mindless mayhem and that's not how you win the PvE people over.

[Riardon]

Frontlines are not dead but they take more time to queue for sure. Now people are on Nexus farm and very soon 2.4 will come.

[Lovescake]

Yeah, it got boring after a while but the system was very flawed. Not sure if they fixed it, but I remember queueing only to be in a party with around 4-6 members. sometimes we were missing an alliance

72 player = 3 alliances
48 player = 2 alliances
24 player = 1 alliance

you weren't missing them as a flaw. it was designed like this and it works.

[HeroSamson]

I don't PvP.

Simple reason is because of people who take it to serious and start throwing around the blame game when they lose can't PvP for fun and you got some guy yelling and causing drama and yeah I rather skip that drama scene and not deal with PvP I am sure a lot of people don't wanna listen to someone like that so a lot of people just skip it.

I used to PvP in diablo 2 and FFXI but here nope unless it is for fun not so serious.

[Shneibel]

pvp was never alive, it had always been like that. Wait an hour to 2 to get into a frontline battle is normal ._.

[Najara]

I cant believe ppl post this and wonder why they teams are never full. You just said that restarting gets you in faster, you know what that means right? the first game that you were reserved too is now down a player because you left.
The system might have some small.....

No. I think it really is bugged. I've noticed that when I go afk I can have a queue upwards of 80 minutes while I'm off playing League of Legends or browsing the net, come back and withdraw/requeue and can have a queue with max people in the next 10 minutes.
If I can have max people in 10 minutes, why couldn't I have 36 or 48 in 80? I rest my case.