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    I like to hard cast the first flare and swiftcast the second. If you swiftcast the first, sometimes your target mob dies before you can get the second flare out, your cast gets interrupted, and you have to start over. If that happens on the second flare using swiftcast, you can immediately switch to a live target and get the flare casted immediately. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinMike View Post
    I like to hard cast the first flare and swiftcast the second. If you swiftcast the first, sometimes your target mob dies before you can get the second flare out, your cast gets interrupted, and you have to start over.
    Yes, great advice.

    For first rotation (all CDs) I do this:

    F3 > Quelling Strikes+ F2x3 > Raging Strikes + Flare > Convert > F2 > Swiftcast + Flare > Mega Ether HQ > Flare

    Transpose > F3 > F2 > Flare > Repeat

    Usually after the triple flare mobs are dead though, heh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeny View Post
    Yes, great advice.

    For first rotation (all CDs) I do this:

    F3 > Quelling Strikes+ F2x3 > Raging Strikes + Flare > Convert > F2 > Swiftcast + Flare > Mega Ether HQ > Flare

    Transpose > F3 > F2 > Flare > Repeat
    For some reason, I never thought to throw a F2 in right after Convert. Good stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinMike View Post
    For some reason, I never thought to throw a F2 in right after Convert. Good stuff.

    Only works if you have 251(?) piety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyneAlexander View Post
    Only works if you have 251(?) piety.
    250 is the minimum.
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    James Cairn
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinMike View Post
    I like to hard cast the first flare and swiftcast the second. If you swiftcast the first, sometimes your target mob dies before you can get the second flare out, your cast gets interrupted, and you have to start over. If that happens on the second flare using swiftcast, you can immediately switch to a live target and get the flare casted immediately. .
    That's actually a very good point, listen to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinMike View Post
    I like to hard cast the first flare and swiftcast the second. If you swiftcast the first, sometimes your target mob dies before you can get the second flare out, your cast gets interrupted, and you have to start over. If that happens on the second flare using swiftcast, you can immediately switch to a live target and get the flare casted immediately. .
    isn't it still better to swiftcast your first flare? As you stated, mob dies before you can get the second flare out, that's a good thing. It means they actually die faster lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umero View Post
    isn't it still better to swiftcast your first flare? As you stated, mob dies before you can get the second flare out, that's a good thing. It means they actually die faster lol
    It's not as good if the mob you are using for target practice dies prematurely and interrupts your follow-up hard-cast Flare that would have finished everything else :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by NyneAlexander View Post
    Only works if you have 251(?) piety.
    Yep, and even for the "master race" the F2 after convert is situational. The rotation I stated is for an instance like Syrcus Tower, or Tam Tara HM with larger pulls at the start (since some monsters there are stoneskined, you can keep them as your main flare target longer). In cases like Brayflox HM, given the new gear levels and sometimes running with a WHM instead of a SCH - going directly into swiftcast + flare is the best option. You can probably finish off any low HP mobs with Freeze.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    It's not as good if the mob you are using for target practice dies prematurely and interrupts your follow-up hard-cast Flare that would have finished everything else :P
    This has been a challenge for me some pulls in Tam Tara HM since I run with a super hard hitting dragoon and warrior a lot of the time. I think people take for granted the amount of damage overpower + doom spike can do, while they've got limited TP the mobs usually don't last very long! One flare is enough some times.
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