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  1. #11
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    Aurelle Delacroix
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    Yeah, when convert and ethers are down its a straight forward sort of thing.

    F3->F2-F2-F2->Swiftcast->Flare->Tranpose->Mash button for F3->F2->F2->Flare->Tranpose............rinse and repeat.
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    James Cairn
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    Another voice to add to the chanting:
    F3, F2 till low, Swiftcast, Flare, Convert, F2 (if you have a scholar and high enough piety, if not skip this), Flare, Ether of some sort, Flare if available.

    Generally just

    F3, F2 as much as you can (again as folks have said, 1 or 2 times usually), Flare, Transpose then get back to mashing the Fire III button

    Its really inelegant and that down time waiting for the first mp tick before casting Fire III again goes against everything you've been taught as a caster dps (always be casting) but it really is the best way.
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    Chida Rake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelle_Delacroix View Post
    Yeah, when convert and ethers are down its a straight forward sort of thing.

    F3->F2-F2-F2->Swiftcast->Flare->Tranpose->Mash button for F3->F2->F2->Flare->Tranpose............rinse and repeat.
    this totally.. never fails, but yeah sometimes after tranpose you have to keep mashing fire 3 because the mana tick is slow, other times its instant. blind luck on it,

    if your mp isn't high enough you'll have to drop a 2nd f2 from the second set or even if you know there's a good chance you wont get flare off if you hit another fire 2.
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    strange awareness of ghosts that no longer haunt this shell.

  4. #14
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    Michael Stormcloud
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    I like to hard cast the first flare and swiftcast the second. If you swiftcast the first, sometimes your target mob dies before you can get the second flare out, your cast gets interrupted, and you have to start over. If that happens on the second flare using swiftcast, you can immediately switch to a live target and get the flare casted immediately. .
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  5. #15
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    Chipi Chapa
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinMike View Post
    I like to hard cast the first flare and swiftcast the second. If you swiftcast the first, sometimes your target mob dies before you can get the second flare out, your cast gets interrupted, and you have to start over.
    Yes, great advice.

    For first rotation (all CDs) I do this:

    F3 > Quelling Strikes+ F2x3 > Raging Strikes + Flare > Convert > F2 > Swiftcast + Flare > Mega Ether HQ > Flare

    Transpose > F3 > F2 > Flare > Repeat

    Usually after the triple flare mobs are dead though, heh.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaolinMike View Post
    I like to hard cast the first flare and swiftcast the second. If you swiftcast the first, sometimes your target mob dies before you can get the second flare out, your cast gets interrupted, and you have to start over. If that happens on the second flare using swiftcast, you can immediately switch to a live target and get the flare casted immediately. .
    That's actually a very good point, listen to that.
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    Yukairi Ran
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    the real reason why you should swift the second flare is because you can transpose and start your mana regen phase during the off gcd of the flare.
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  8. #18
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    Michael Stormcloud
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uninstall View Post
    the real reason why you should swift the second flare is because you can transpose and start your mana regen phase during the off gcd of the flare.
    Wouldn't this kinda be the case whether you use swiftcast or not, since you can't transpose until the Flare cast is finished anyway?
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    Last edited by ShaolinMike; 10-09-2014 at 03:32 AM.

  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeny View Post
    Yes, great advice.

    For first rotation (all CDs) I do this:

    F3 > Quelling Strikes+ F2x3 > Raging Strikes + Flare > Convert > F2 > Swiftcast + Flare > Mega Ether HQ > Flare

    Transpose > F3 > F2 > Flare > Repeat
    For some reason, I never thought to throw a F2 in right after Convert. Good stuff.
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    Baopee Dhen
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    FIII - FII x2 or x3 - Flare - Transpose - (Cold downs) - swift cast - Flare - convert - (potions) - Flare - transpose - (FIII - FII x 2 or x3 - Flare) repeat
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