"Get in the circle healer!"

[Cherub]

I agree with the OP actually. I can't speak for SCH since I'm a full time pvp whm but standing all day inside the circle, rushing into the circle when there are 8 enemies- especially as WHM is plain dumb. It's just way better to stand outside the circle which allows you to easily healbomb without using any CD's. 1 or 2 persons harassing you ? Np fluid aura, repose, sure/swiftcast repose and thats a few more seconds to heal without interruption. Or just LoS them and a 2 second cast ist almost granted. It's easier to find time outside the circle as when you're getting bombed inside the circle because that's exactly what happens. The circle is a mine field. No more no less.
I don't care what others say, if I can only heal for roughly 20 seconds in a 5 minute fight (and of those precious 20 seconds about 15 might get lost due to stuns and silence) I'm nothing but a failure. The only time I head to mid is when I judge that it is safe to go there and plan to use a few CD's. sacred prism, equan, healbomb a few seconds and then I'm out again. I'll stay in if I see it's safe but I'll run if it's not.

It depends alot on the Situation but generally you stay outside because you don't want to get interrupted all the time. VIT accesories won't stop the interruptions. It doesn't matter if I have 3800 HP and can't cast or if I have 4500 HP and can't cast. Those extra HP won't buy me enough time for my CD's to refresh. It might give enough time for the other healer to heal me but let's just assume a PLD is on that healer and he's unable to cast as well.

[ExKage]

This is generally why parties at A or C with fewer than 3 healers get steamrolled. Because you think you're not supposed to tank.

Wear VIT accs if you don't already.

Edit: To be fair, your problem is that you're a WHM. SCH can generally get beat on all day and make it work because Adlo acts like mini-Surecast.

As a SCH... how? I cast Adlo on myself and get beat on and then die once all my CDs (Attune when I see Im about to be burst to death, followed by equa+adlo+aura) and I get pewpew'd to death with all the interrupts as both heals are getting pummeled. I wear Vit combo of i90 and weathered i100 accessories.. :c

[Haprimac]

As a SCH... how? I cast Adlo on myself and get beat on and then die once all my CDs (Attune when I see Im about to be burst to death, followed by equa+adlo+aura) and I get pewpew'd to death with all the interrupts as both heals are getting pummeled. I wear Vit combo of i90 and weathered i100 accessories.. :c

Your cast won't interrupt while under the effect of adlo. ^^

[Yumi_umi]

This is generally why parties at A or C with fewer than 3 healers get steamrolled. Because you think you're not supposed to tank.

Wear VIT accs if you don't already.

Edit: To be fair, your problem is that you're a WHM. SCH can generally get beat on all day and make it work because Adlo acts like mini-Surecast.

Been doing tht way before FL was released lol
If i can handle 2 level 50 dungeon mobs wail on me without any pvp skills then surely i can use tht knowledge in FL with some of the techniques i picked up in WD.
And since we have all the pvp skills unlocked we can utilise them and have no excuses.
The only thing tht u probably can't survive is blm brigade chain flaring, group of melees jabbing u or a bunch of Wars ccing u and of course an LB without attunement.

Ppl just play by the book/ the meta too much. It's " how they were taught"
To play lol.

[Ultimatecalibur]

PSA: A Healer standing outside of the circle during a 4 on 3 attack just gave the opposing GC a bunch of points as they ended up holding the flag until you dropped one of them. A Healer standing outside the circle during a 4 on 4+ defense just gave the opposing GC a bunch of points because your team could not contest it and they just took it. A healer standing outside the circle just let an opposing player steal the flag because the guy snuck around the other side or broke through and everyone else was fighting on the ramp.

I have seen these things happen tons of times and every time I shout "Fight in the Circle" I'm not just shouting it at the healers, I'm shouting it at the Bards, Black Mages, Dragoons, Warriors, Paladins, Marauders, Summoners, Monks, Scholars and White Mages fighting outside the circle obsessed over a 3 point kill who just let the other GC accrue 100+ points during that 5 minute fight because they held the flag through the whole thing.

[Leigaon]

By default a lot of people push for the healers to stand in the circle. But there's no single solution to it because it depends on the situation, we have to read what's going on and decide quickly. Most healers run straight into the and all attention is focused on them, usually if I'm on A or C and B is assisting their healer usually helps heal me or the other healer. If our team is heavy on AOE's and I see a bunch of monks come to the center I know they'll die but also know they'll tear into the healer. I've stood out so I can cure bomb, all their efforts on a healer standing in the circle becomes just wasted time if our AOE dmg is high enough. Or as a healer in the center I consider myself more as bait and try my best to heal with the abilities I have. Not saying I just stand there but compared to the white mage who isn't being kicked and punched...I do what I can.

Then again there's other situations where I can draw a lot of attention on me from the aoe's, and let my melee heavy party run inside and tear into their mages, if I am outside and my monks and dragoons are safe inside usually their mages fall..unless they have a lot of mages..see goes all over the place when you think about it.

[KingAhmoseTheFirst]

PSA: Healers can't get in the circle because there's tons of AOE there....

Personally, I love standing in the circle... My favorite thing to do is "SPRINT" in the circle of a group and "AURA BLAST" there arse!.. Guess what? I's the only one in circle for a few seconds.. this give my team time to adjust and focus something down while the opposing team targets me (I know they so salty I pushed them back) and then I use "ATTUNEMENT" because with them being salty I know they will try and blow me up.. (I'll stop here can't give you all my juicy secret techniques) ;P ... HAHA! But thats just my preference.

Please stop asking us to do this, and please stop insulting us and dogging on us forevermore after we refuse and correct you on why we don't get in the circle.

This is something I dont like when someone tries to tell you what to do as healer and they dps or tank... mannnnnnn stfu!! lol

[NorthernLadMSP]

I do tend to stay in the circle with my party members, but I can also see OP's point. It can get really frustrating when you're in the cirlce and you have 2 tanks and 2-3-4 DPS on you.

BTW, to the person who's sole response was to use your non-interrupt skills, I have news for you. Every single one of those skills is totally interruptable by any class that has a stun or silence move.

[Zyphione]

PSA: Healers can't get in the circle because there's tons of AOE there, and unlike DPS, the only instant cast spells we have are near worthless. Please stop asking us to do this, and please stop insulting us and dogging on us forevermore after we refuse and correct you on why we don't get in the circle. I can guarantee you that keeping you alive long enough to kill the enemies in the circle is more important than getting in the circle, dying in ten seconds, and then allowing the enemy to win the encounter and reclaim the circle ten seconds later.

The PvP FL community is very toxic with these players. Please stop, it's beginning to make me feel like I should just be another yolomeister bard/warrior/paladin/summoner or anything else that doesn't have any kinds of responsibility beyond focus the healers.

I am not understand some term use but I try to reply.
It is very possible for healer to heal inside circle unless enemy team you face have very good focus, which very rare. Dying also quite difficult if party has 2 other healer helping you but survival depend much on what class you are.

Both WHM and SCH survive different way and I feel OP very exaggerate? There is way to stay alive no matter where healer standing but circle is safest place in most case. If tank is not helping or dps is not helping then problem is not healer.

[SeraviEdalborez]

BTW, to the person who's sole response was to use your non-interrupt skills, I have news for you. Every single one of those skills is totally interruptable by any class that has a stun or silence move.

Then don't blow them all at once. This is fairly straightforward logic. This is a big reason why Surecast is very important; low cooldown, not a huge waste if it gets eaten.

Unless your opposition is really smart (premade), they're going to waste a lot of stuns and silences front-loaded instead of near the end of your HP. So let them waste it when you have nothing up.