I read some of these posts... I think the discussion should be "Get in the circle... period". People need to keep in mind that you can have up to 4 players in the circle that add to your ability to "cap" the flag. If you have 3 and the enemy has 4 then they win and they cap it over you. With this point being made even if you have all ranged dps on the team SOMEONE... at least 4.... need to be in the circle... always.... otherwise you might have a 5 minute fight against the enemy and tthey'll hold the flag the entire time b/c they fight with 4 in the circle. It is incredibly frustrating to see the flag get capped because people on your team do not understand this.