"Get in the circle healer!"

[swordrain]

PSA: Healers can't get in the circle because there's tons of AOE there, and unlike DPS, the only instant cast spells we have are near worthless. Please stop asking us to do this, and please stop insulting us and dogging on us forevermore after we refuse and correct you on why we don't get in the circle. I can guarantee you that keeping you alive long enough to kill the enemies in the circle is more important than getting in the circle, dying in ten seconds, and then allowing the enemy to win the encounter and reclaim the circle ten seconds later.

The PvP FL community is very toxic with these players. Please stop, it's beginning to make me feel like I should just be another yolomeister bard/warrior/paladin/summoner or anything else that doesn't have any kinds of responsibility beyond focus the healers.

[SeraviEdalborez]

That's what your no-interrupts are for. You can be in the circle and not right next to other people in AoE range. AoE is very small.

[swordrain]

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Three cooldowns can't possibly make a difference in a 5 minute battle where the enemy is focusing healers or anyone else. You know what does make a difference? I'm assuming you don't because if you did you would have laughed at your own response. What makes a difference is keeping the enemy attacking a DPS/Tank and NOT healers, and allowing the healers to simply freecast and make everyone immortal without a care in the world. Making a difference is being in a position where you aren't standing in the middle of 8 enemies and allowing them to simply mark and focus you. Making a difference is being good at using terrain, you are able to raise a dead player without using any cooldown. That's making a difference.

Standing in the middle of 16 people while AOE flies everywhere and allowing myself to get focused by every enemy on the field while I get stunned by paladins while crossing my fingers and hoping that my three cooldowns save me is not.

[SeraviEdalborez]

Standing in the middle of 16 people means you're focusing your efforts on the wrong location to begin with.

[swordrain]

Standing in the middle of 16 people means you're focusing your efforts on the wrong location to begin with.

16 people

8 enemies
8 allies

Of course standing in the circle means standing in the middle of all of them.

[Yumi_umi]

Lol healers r kinda meant to tank tht bs in this pvp.
If u WD then u should know the difference the healer makes when they can make a good attempt at tanking the enemy team.
10 secs of tanking can really make a difference as the enemy team will most likely blow all their CDs on you. If you can manage all tht then ur dps and tanks will have a lot of space to breathe and dps them down / cc and kill them off of u.
Also aoes won't do much unless every other member on the opposing team is a blm or smn lol
Its all about the heavy single dmg harassment u must be talking about.

[Haprimac]

Never heard that one in any group or alliance chat. o.o Though I admit I love nothing more than sprint to the middle of the circle and aura blast the whole team off the circle, claim it as our GC's spot and then mingle outside of the circle when my group charges to defend it. x') Not the wisest tactic, but it's still fun.

But you do what you can as a healer to keep your group (and most of all yourself) alive, if it requires you to stand outside the circle, then you do just that. Don't see how one person outside the clashing-zone will make a huge difference when fights and players tend to move fast.

[Everdark]

I've never been told to get in the circle as a healer specifically. The people I run with use it in general, when the whole party is kinda milling around outside not focusing on anything.

but the times that I have rushed into the circle as a healer has never ended well. (not counting the time there were 4 other whms with me.)

[swordrain]

Lol healers r kinda meant to tank tht bs in this pvp.
If u WD then u should know the difference the healer makes when they can make a good attempt at tanking the enemy team.
10 secs of tanking can really make a difference as the enemy team will most likely blow all their CDs on you. If you can manage all tht then ur dps and tanks will have a lot of space to breathe and dps them down / cc and kill them off of u.
Also aoes won't do much unless every other member on the opposing team is a blm or smn lol
Its all about the heavy single dmg harassment u must be talking about.

This is a joke, right? Your logic is to let them nuke the healer and hope the healer doesn't die?

What? This is a joke right?

I guess this is the price I pay for trying to discuss PvP strategy in a primarily PvE game. I'm out.

I last all day in the circle, it's rare that I need to stray from it (though I do sometimes on whm). Btw, there is nothing more annoying than me playing out of my ass and saving all my lustrates and focilization specially for my parties whm... only to find that the guys so far outside of my los that I just wasted some aether stacks.

The only time I need another healer to keep myself alive is when I'm standing in the enemy line of fire AKA in the circle. The rest of the time I can keep myself alive, and I can keep the healer(s) in the circle alive with relative impunity. You don't need to healer stack to win.

[SeraviEdalborez]

This is a joke, right? Your logic is to let them nuke the healer and hope the healer doesn't die?

What? This is a joke right?

This is generally why parties at A or C with fewer than 3 healers get steamrolled. Because you think you're not supposed to tank.

Wear VIT accs if you don't already.

Edit: To be fair, your problem is that you're a WHM. SCH can generally get beat on all day and make it work because Adlo acts like mini-Surecast.