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    Yumi_umi's Avatar
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    This is generally why parties at A or C with fewer than 3 healers get steamrolled. Because you think you're not supposed to tank.

    Wear VIT accs if you don't already.

    Edit: To be fair, your problem is that you're a WHM. SCH can generally get beat on all day and make it work because Adlo acts like mini-Surecast.
    Been doing tht way before FL was released lol
    If i can handle 2 level 50 dungeon mobs wail on me without any pvp skills then surely i can use tht knowledge in FL with some of the techniques i picked up in WD.
    And since we have all the pvp skills unlocked we can utilise them and have no excuses.
    The only thing tht u probably can't survive is blm brigade chain flaring, group of melees jabbing u or a bunch of Wars ccing u and of course an LB without attunement.

    Ppl just play by the book/ the meta too much. It's " how they were taught"
    To play lol.
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    PSA: A Healer standing outside of the circle during a 4 on 3 attack just gave the opposing GC a bunch of points as they ended up holding the flag until you dropped one of them. A Healer standing outside the circle during a 4 on 4+ defense just gave the opposing GC a bunch of points because your team could not contest it and they just took it. A healer standing outside the circle just let an opposing player steal the flag because the guy snuck around the other side or broke through and everyone else was fighting on the ramp.

    I have seen these things happen tons of times and every time I shout "Fight in the Circle" I'm not just shouting it at the healers, I'm shouting it at the Bards, Black Mages, Dragoons, Warriors, Paladins, Marauders, Summoners, Monks, Scholars and White Mages fighting outside the circle obsessed over a 3 point kill who just let the other GC accrue 100+ points during that 5 minute fight because they held the flag through the whole thing.
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    Leigaon's Avatar
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    Zara Diaspora
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 63
    By default a lot of people push for the healers to stand in the circle. But there's no single solution to it because it depends on the situation, we have to read what's going on and decide quickly. Most healers run straight into the and all attention is focused on them, usually if I'm on A or C and B is assisting their healer usually helps heal me or the other healer. If our team is heavy on AOE's and I see a bunch of monks come to the center I know they'll die but also know they'll tear into the healer. I've stood out so I can cure bomb, all their efforts on a healer standing in the circle becomes just wasted time if our AOE dmg is high enough. Or as a healer in the center I consider myself more as bait and try my best to heal with the abilities I have. Not saying I just stand there but compared to the white mage who isn't being kicked and punched...I do what I can.

    Then again there's other situations where I can draw a lot of attention on me from the aoe's, and let my melee heavy party run inside and tear into their mages, if I am outside and my monks and dragoons are safe inside usually their mages fall..unless they have a lot of mages..see goes all over the place when you think about it.
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    Last edited by Leigaon; 10-03-2014 at 03:14 AM.

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    Dee Loe
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    PSA: A Healer standing outside of the circle during a 4 on 3 attack just gave the opposing GC a bunch of points as they ended up holding the flag until you dropped one of them. A Healer standing outside the circle during a 4 on 4+ defense just gave the opposing GC a bunch of points because your team could not contest it and they just took it. A healer standing outside the circle just let an opposing player steal the flag because the guy snuck around the other side or broke through and everyone else was fighting on the ramp.

    I have seen these things happen tons of times and every time I shout "Fight in the Circle" I'm not just shouting it at the healers, I'm shouting it at the Bards, Black Mages, Dragoons, Warriors, Paladins, Marauders, Summoners, Monks, Scholars and White Mages fighting outside the circle obsessed over a 3 point kill who just let the other GC accrue 100+ points during that 5 minute fight because they held the flag through the whole thing.
    The best post in this thread.
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    Sanghelios's Avatar
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    Zeniba Zhiya
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    PSA: A Healer standing outside of the circle during a 4 on 3 attack just gave the opposing GC a bunch of points as they ended up holding the flag until you dropped one of them. A Healer standing outside the circle during a 4 on 4+ defense just gave the opposing GC a bunch of points because your team could not contest it and they just took it. A healer standing outside the circle just let an opposing player steal the flag because the guy snuck around the other side or broke through and everyone else was fighting on the ramp.
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    Thats true. Nothing else will ever work. Stay in the circle as much as you can. I only play healer and i always stay in circle (in a normal situation, not if it is hopeless ). And surprise, i can hold out there without getting nuked within five seconds. Learn to use your PvP skills, use fluid aura to kick dragoons out of the circle, run into enemys groups and use Aetheric Burst , run into your own group and use focalization, use swiftcast + divine seal for media 2 every minute. Use sprint to run around in the circle and by doing that cast a divine regen on some peeps, use your level up points to unlock all three levels of Sacred Prism and cast it somewhere in the circle so your whole team and you can benefit from it (Hell it gives you 40% less melee damage for almost half a minute), use divine breath to instant res another healer and besides all of this you still have the oh shit buttons benediction, equanimity, attunement and purify.


    I dont know, i dont see any reason for any class to stay outside of the circle. As you see, whitemages do have a lot of stuff they can do to hold out and help the team. Especially Sacred Prism is your way to go as a healer who can stand in the circle.
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    Last edited by Sanghelios; 10-04-2014 at 09:09 PM.