ATMA nerfing - An addressal to those who object to it.

[Starvald]

>Atma is not BiS. <snip>

>1300 tokens still takes three weeks. That's essentially the same progression as a typical person working towards Novus with the Alexendrites.
>>People keep saying that they don't want relic to be handed out with minimal effort...

I never said Atma was BiS. I said Atma after all upgrades (which I would hope people would understand as upgrade to Nexus) is best weapon in game only rivaled by High Allagan. But seriously, if someone doesn't have the patience to grind for Atma I would guess they don't make it into Coil 2 either. Because running for High Allagan weapon takes even longer than Atma unless you really really have a lot of luck.

Are you seriously complaining that 1300 token still take 3 weeks to get? Again, if someone cannot wait 3 weeks to be able to buy unweathered (with UATs which nobody ever wants anymore in ST) then I would really suggest that that person should not even think of getting Atmas to begin with because the time to put in and subsequently to upgrade the weapon is certainly more than 3 weeks.

We had the same discussions about relics when Titan was still hard. Everyone and their mothers was complaining that the Titan fight was the only thing making it impossible for them to get their relic weapons and that they have been trying to for ages to get through it...sounds familiar? Maybe because it is very similar to the whining we get nowadays about Atmas. Now you do Titan in DF and it is a one shot most of the time. Back in the days I think the success rate rivaled the drop rate of Atmas unless you had a FC or were really lucky in DF. But trying to run it with PUG...forget about ever making it. Exact same discussion, exact same responses ranging from "get over it" to "i completely understand".

If people cannot get over the fact that they won't get to nexus in 2 days, then maybe they should try for something else or just wait a few more months until SE will lower the requirements. If they gonna quit out of frustration, then I don't think there is anything we can do about it. Because really??? Why do you need Atma and then Nexus so urgently? Unless you are a hardcore raider, every weapon will do its job at the level you are playing. But if it is really something you cannot live without, then i guess you should shoulder your weapon and start grinding because it won't get any better any time soon.

EDIT: Oh and before I forget. After Echo got introduced and Titan got easier, people were still flocking the forums whining about not being able to beat it in DF...so, I still dont't think the whole slippery slope thingy applies to my statements because people will always find something else to whine about once one thing is "improved" or made easier.