Will ninja be STR or DEX based or will there be a new attribute?

[Alistaire]

Drg and monk only shair accesories. If they make dex effect physical dps, they don't just have to change the tool tip they have to change the stat and how it works, how damage is calculated using dex for ninja would be different then how it is for bard, since bard is designed with the singing punishment in mind. It much easier on programming to just make it use str.

There's not that much to change. Hell, if they wanted to be really lazy about it, they could just make NIN abilities count as ranged attacks with a really short range, as far as coding goes.

[Skyl1n3]

Perhaps they'll add a new sub-stat for Ninja like AGL (Agility)

[Alistaire]

Only problem with that is it's a lot more work than just using DEX and calling it a day. Adding AGL would mean adding that stat to every left-side piece of "disciples of war" jobs lvl 1-49. Then what? Make a whole new set of myth+coil accessories for them?

Then there'd be new synths they'd need to make for AGL potions, etc...not worth it. If they want it to not be STR, it'll be DEX.

[Firepower]

Yoshi doesn't want to tell so we don't stockpile gear. So we just stockpile both STR AND DEX!

He did say keep your DPS gear or some sort but that doesn't help as it has both.
The data mined from patch 2.35 or 2.25 I can't remember, was NIN traits and they had DEX boosting traits, these could easily just be placeholders or just a mistake.
Most recently they did say they didn't know yet (and it could change), perhaps they wanted it to be DEX but fiddling with the programming side of things created some issues so they might be considering STR for simplicity.
Most importantly though: MNK ilv80 CT gear.. How can NIN not be allowed to wear that......

So I've seen decent arguments for it being DEX and decent arguments for it being STR and Yoshi is keeping his stupid mouth closed for god knows whatever reason, personally I don't see how us knowing what primary stat it will use could harm anything by now.

[Skyl1n3]

Can't see it being DEX as that's primarily a ranged physical attack based stat and from what we've seen NIN is mostly close-combat, so it can only really be STR.

[Alistaire]

Yoshi doesn't want to tell so we don't stockpile gear. So we just stockpile both STR AND DEX!

Most importantly though: MNK ilv80 CT gear.. How can NIN not be allowed to wear that......

So I've seen decent arguments for it being DEX and decent arguments for it being STR and Yoshi is keeping his stupid mouth closed for god knows whatever reason,

Either him or another SE rep (think it was him though) "we have decided (whether it's STR or DEX), but we may change it".

So the fact they may change it before release would be a good reason not to say what it is right now...

I agree about the Fuma gear, would be odd to not have NIN on it. They could just rename it and make "fuma" another set though. The existing set is ninja-esque, but not so much they couldn't make a new set and have it look more ninja than mnk's set, or have it be the exact same model like MNK/DRG ST gear. Or they could just add DEX to the existing set.

[SeraviEdalborez]

Can't see it being DEX as that's primarily a ranged physical attack based stat and from what we've seen NIN is mostly close-combat, so it can only really be STR.

No reason it can't be. For every single job, the Attack Power stat is equal to STR. Except BRD, where Attack Power is DEX. Second Wind (among other things) is based directly on Attack Power, so this allows for BRD to use a skill designed around a STR class (MNK) at full power.

Can very, very easily just make Attack Power = DEX or VIT or PIE or whatever they want. So it's not a great reason.

[Exstal]

Wild card, NIN can use DEX AND STR.

[JakzChurchill]

The balance reasoning people seem to enjoy throwing around makes no sense to me, The expansion will be probably be within 6 months by then new jobs will come in and upset the balance once again. Then changing how DEX is described as working for one class becomes pointless.

The most logical way to look at it is from an ease of use perspective, FFXIV plays massively to the casual crowd by making things as simple as possible. This is why the stat descriptions currently work so well, using a ranged weapon? stack DEX, using a melee weapon? STR. There is no description that allows for DEX to only work with nin and brd without making it confusing.

lets say you change it to DEX is precision, okay so far it makes sense, but all of a sudden you find a monk stacking dexterity; why? Monk appeared to be a precision based job to that player so they believe that dex is the correct stat.

okay so instead we name the individual weapons on the tooltips; DEX increases the damage of Bows and Daggers, easy enough... ohh but STR has to have the same treatment for clarity sakes, Strengths tooltip then included weapons from all current and upcoming tanks and melee dps, suddenly becoming much larger than it needs to be, and having people read through a list to work out what their weapon needs.

Finally a ninja in bard gear as opposed to monk? are you serious, this is really what you want to see?

I'm sure if they decide with DEX they'll have a good reason, but so far all the reasons i'v seen on this thread seem default to the idea of change for the sake of change, and I personally believe it should be a STR class, unless they have a massive overhaul on the job system that allows for the same clarity we have now.

[Zoeila]

what if it's str+dex/2?
also i think nin weapons will have lower damage like bard ones since im pretty sure thier poisons will lower defense like acid bolts