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    TheTen's Avatar
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    Saintrelmaux Savigny
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I ask about ease of use, and people hijack the thread to argue about endgame DPS race with a class I didn't even mention *headshake*

    Thank you to those of you who actually answered my question!

    Blueyes, MNK is complicated to me because the combination of constant positioning plus all the skills used in the rotation is just too much for my fingers and my focus. (The same problem I have with DRG, and DRG has to move much less.) My other two main jobs are PLD and WHM, which both work well for me because they involve minimal moving and only 3 to 4 keys to press most of the time.

    I will definitely give BLM a more indepth try (I only got it high enough for Swiftcast) because standing still and pressing one key a lot sounds grand to me. But I'll also continue leveling BRD, after the recommendations in this thread
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    Synestr Ashbringer
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTen View Post
    I ask about ease of use, and people hijack the thread to argue about endgame DPS race with a class I didn't even mention *headshake*

    Thank you to those of you who actually answered my question!

    Blueyes, MNK is complicated to me because the combination of constant positioning plus all the skills used in the rotation is just too much for my fingers and my focus. (The same problem I have with DRG, and DRG has to move much less.) My other two main jobs are PLD and WHM, which both work well for me because they involve minimal moving and only 3 to 4 keys to press most of the time.

    I will definitely give BLM a more indepth try (I only got it high enough for Swiftcast) because standing still and pressing one key a lot sounds grand to me. But I'll also continue leveling BRD, after the recommendations in this thread
    That should be a good way to go for you then. Both jobs should fit your wanted playstyle well. I would level them both at the same time if you have the time. I enjoy both A LOT, although my BRD is significantly farther behind my BLM atm.

    Have fun!
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    Bobbin Threadbare
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    Why are you guys still debating about end-game shits? OP clearly only ask for general stuff and he hasn't even capped yet. It would still be a very long journey before his BLM could touch 2nd coil.

    Realize your own boundaries, because clearly some of you went overboard.
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    Why are you guys still debating about end-game shits? OP clearly only ask for general stuff and he hasn't even capped yet. It would still be a very long journey before his BLM could touch 2nd coil.

    Realize your own boundaries, because clearly some of you went overboard.
    Because threads don't evolve and only the OP matters, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    Because threads don't evolve and only the OP matters, right?
    Actually. yes.

    Please keep all posts on topic. Making off topic posts will only cause confusion and miscommunication.
    is the very first General Forum Rule.

    Thanks for the continued input! I am hoping to eventually enter end-end-game (as in 2nd turn) and do well (not just 'okay'), and that will be much more feasible for me if the basic gameplay of the Job doesn't already overwhelm me. It's good to hear that this may be possible for me.
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    I have and it surks...

    I have gone a whole fire phase with no FS proc. Then the next phase with 2 or 3.

    Dat RNG
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    Jon Bigwood
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I would level the BLM to 50, since you already have leveled it for swiftcast. My main is PLD, and later I leveled WHM since I had to level it for Stoneskin. Later I leveled the BLM since I already had leveled it for Swiftcast. Later I leveld Bard to see a ranged high mobility class.

    I enjoy quite much the BLM, dungeons usually are much more relaxed. PLD needs more work and knowing everything, WHM is more relaxed but can have high stress moments and BLM is more relaxed generally, but also is one-shot much easier. As you also play PLD and WHM you'll see they are very different classes and you focus in different things.

    Usually the tank is always looking at the enemy list, has to be aware of everything, pick up enemies, place the bosses, not lose hate, etc. The WHM will be looking mainly at the party list and also keeps an eye on everything. The BLM will many times have no enemy list until you have attacked, has to take care about mp management, rotations, buffs, etc. and also very important not to pull enmity off the tank. Taking care of choosing your target, decide if you use or not AoE attacks so you don't steal enmity off the tank or when they are not useful, using the DoTs if possible, knowing when you don't have time to cast and use scathe, etc. is an important part of the job as you are leveling up.

    Quelling strikes is very important for a BLM so you'll eventually level the Bard too. Both are ranged but they are very different, since Bard has more mobility and DoTs and buffs are very important, and has also the songs. I think you will enjoy playing both.

    My SCH and SMN are only level 34, so I can't tell about difficulty. I think micro managing and placing the pet is an added difficulty, at least for me in this moment, but in low level places you'll probably survive letting the pet live its life and worrying only about yourself. But it's not how it's supposed to be played.

    End game is different than dungeons, all players are supposed to try and obtain the best of the class, if possible, and that is not easy.
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    Last edited by JonBigwood; 10-03-2014 at 08:28 PM.

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    Kaane Moka
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    To be a good BLM, first one need to know fully details of all the mechanic existed in the fight. Keep calm and keep your mind open. Narrow vision is a big NO NO for any class, but especially BLM if you want to be good. So as for OP, if you are the type that get panicked easily, I should not recommend Blm as a class for you. But if you still want to play as a Caster, maybe SMN is a better choice as they can still DPS while having a break in between.
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    Philia Felice
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    BLM damage does normalize generally, but make no mistake it's the one class you can easily be +10% to +15% the regular damage on an exceptional run, against a single target. Most other DPS can only rely on outstanding and unreasonable crits to get even +5% base damage if the CDs and rotation were done the same way as before over 4 minutes or more, but a great (read: lucky) BLM run can lead to +50 DPS over a normal one.

    Typically though it will in fact normalize within a few %.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 10-04-2014 at 06:51 AM.

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    Xisin Fendada
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    right what this dude above me said, if summoners arent kiting and spewing dots everywhere they WILL beat blms in this fight. they have tons of advantages one is that getting targeted with shriek doesnt take a dump on their dps, two they can multi dot to a great degree (they can at certain points in a fight have 5 dot sets going at once thanks to contagion + bane in the archer phase.) and at other times have two dot sets going. the constant in and out + shrieks make blm hard to optimize for this fight and multi dotting on blm is not as strong as it on summoner (it does however have its merit)
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