Tired of dungeons yet?

[Reinheart]

I like it but wife don't care too much about it... so can't go in again ><

[Akira]

well im sort of tired of them but thats because i did them everyday all day and now have all the gear i need from the dungeons beat batraal like 8 times XD

[Leonesaurus]

I'm loving the dungeons very, very much! I run them with my LS every night to get gear, socialize, make some videos and hangout. It's probably the best thing added to this game since its launch.

I love the challenge, the new boss, the music and keep coming back for more gear. I have most of of stuff I'm after but still need a few here and there and need to help my friends get a bit more too, since we have almost everything.

When I'm done I'll probably go grind more of my jobs until 1.19. But I'm never bored of it, I find it very engaging and energetic. Beating Batraal dozens of times is always fun too!

[Cichy]

In my opinion the two dungeons have a huge design flaw because they are very limited.
Gear is reskinned and exp is OK which will make those two dungeons obsolete with any type of decent content that will be released. There is nothing great about them and there has to be something for them to be used in the future.
Yoshi should've added some truly epic gear that can stand out in those dungeons and maybe some exp quests so that the players would be inclined to do them.
Like I said, if he releases another dungeons with good looking gear at lvl 30 and maybe 50 people will just skip the current two and grind till they get to those. If AF will be at 50 I certainly wont take a step inside the Darkhold, I rather grind.

[Airget]

In my opinion the two dungeons have a huge design flaw because they are very limited.
Gear is reskinned and exp is OK which will make those two dungeons obsolete with any type of decent content that will be released. There is nothing great about them and there has to be something for them to be used in the future.
Yoshi should've added some truly epic gear that can stand out in those dungeons and maybe some exp quests so that the players would be inclined to do them.
Like I said, if he releases another dungeons with good looking gear at lvl 30 and maybe 50 people will just skip the current two and grind till they get to those. If AF will be at 50 I certainly wont take a step inside the Darkhold, I rather grind.

Adding "epic" gear wouldn't really help dungeons, especially since then they'd alway shave to top the gear. What would be nice however is if they had more quest oriented for the dungeons. If I'm correct as it stands now there is only one quest related to both of them and it's no repeatable. What would be nice is perhaps each dungeon had 5-10 quest and doing certain quest changed the whole concept of the dungeon. So rather then a dungeon always be about taking down the bosses, there could be some quest in which the dungeon's anatomy completely changes and instead of fighting the R25 boss you are taking down pirates that are trying to loot hidden treasure in a secret passage or something.

[Cichy]

Adding "epic" gear wouldn't really help dungeons, especially since then they'd alway shave to top the gear. What would be nice however is if they had more quest oriented for the dungeons. If I'm correct as it stands now there is only one quest related to both of them and it's no repeatable. What would be nice is perhaps each dungeon had 5-10 quest and doing certain quest changed the whole concept of the dungeon. So rather then a dungeon always be about taking down the bosses, there could be some quest in which the dungeon's anatomy completely changes and instead of fighting the R25 boss you are taking down pirates that are trying to loot hidden treasure in a secret passage or something.

I think TERA did it great since they got both.
The mobs inside TERA dungeons drop normal quality items, mini bosses can drop some great items, boss can drop epic items. Those epic items are rare but stand out among higher level items. For example, there is a lvl 27 dungeon and the epic weapon out of there can be only outdone by an epic weapon from lvl 32 dungeon which is the next instance. But than again they designed 3-4 sets of gear for certain levels. Sometimes you out level the dungeon and you wish you could go back.
In addition you have multiple exp quests inside that help you level quick, doing instances in that game is one of the funnest ways to level and most rewarding since you get great exp + possibly best gear.

[Destain]

In my opinion the two dungeons have a huge design flaw because they are very limited.
Gear is reskinned and exp is OK which will make those two dungeons obsolete with any type of decent content that will be released. There is nothing great about them and there has to be something for them to be used in the future.
Yoshi should've added some truly epic gear that can stand out in those dungeons and maybe some exp quests so that the players would be inclined to do them.
Like I said, if he releases another dungeons with good looking gear at lvl 30 and maybe 50 people will just skip the current two and grind till they get to those. If AF will be at 50 I certainly wont take a step inside the Darkhold, I rather grind.

Another person that, according to their lodestone history, has yet to complete even the mission version of the dungeon run (no batraal win necessary). I question your integrity as well! Let it be known, if you post with a valid complaint and have tried the dungeon to no avail, I will not argue, I will empathize. However, I will continue to check lodestone accomplishments and call out each and every one of you that is hating without having experienced it for themselves. Wth? Do people read other peoples forums and regurgitate when they read as their own experience? Lastly, your flat out incorrect for stating all the new gear is just re-skinned versions of other gear, some are, but not many.

[Cichy]

Another person that, according to their lodestone history, has yet to complete even the mission version of the dungeon run (no batraal win necessary). I question your integrity as well! Let it be known, if you post with a valid complaint and have tried the dungeon to no avail, I will not argue, I will empathize. However, I will continue to check lodestone accomplishments and call out each and every one of you that is hating without having experienced it for themselves. Wth? Do people read other peoples forums and regurgitate when they read as their own experience? Lastly, your flat out incorrect for stating all the new gear is just re-skinned versions of other gear, some are, but not many.

Did you even read my post or did you just assume it's an invitation to white knight it?
I wasn't talking about how fun the dungeons are or how challenging the content in them is. I was simply stating that they are poorly designed in a sense that the content in them is very shallow. Outside of few new pieces of gear that are a novelty because there isnt anything else there is nothing enduring thing about them.
Lets take XI dynamis as an example, years since release and people still do it because some piece of gear is really good or really cool looking. Now in XIV everything is meh.
Also, I've seen pictures of all the gear, it's all reskinn or something very close and meh. Like I said once AF comes out, people will just grind to AF like in XI because it's better exp than dungeons.

[Destain]

Did you even read my post or did you just assume it's an invitation to white knight it?
I wasn't talking about how fun the dungeons are or how challenging the content in them is. I was simply stating that they are poorly designed in a sense that the content in them is very shallow. Outside of few new pieces of gear that are a novelty because there isnt anything else there is nothing enduring thing about them.
Lets take XI dynamis as an example, years since release and people still do it because some piece of gear is really good or really cool looking. Now in XIV everything is meh.
Also, I've seen pictures of all the gear, it's all reskinn or something very close and meh. Like I said once AF comes out, people will just grind to AF like in XI because it's better exp than dungeons.

if white knighting it means pointing out the fact that you haven't played it so your opinion on it's depth or quality is based soley on what you've read on other forums then I will white knight it so hard. Bottom line is your another person called out for making criticizisms without having played it. I'm going to review a resturaunt without having dined there, I think I'll write "there is nothng great about them, huge design flaws". You must be a top developer to decipher this information without experiencing it.

Yeah, I get it, you wants ur endgames content. How many years into xi was it before dynamis was added? This was not supposed to be end game or substantial story content, just a crowd pleasing activity. I'd figure with how much you post you would have read that. I'm sorry, I rarely post but the ridiculousness of this thread, or some of it's critic/posters i should say, was something I wanted to be addressed. Again, the post was are you tired of the dungeons, not fix this dungeon, what do you think of it? This would mean to me is that the thread was meant for people actually playing the dungeons to comment on. if you came back saying you had experienced the dungeons to some degree your argument might have a sliver of merit. Go experience them and if your opinion is the same I 100% respect that, if you don't, keep your opinion to yourself, IMO... Lol...
I await your undoubtedly defensive rebuttal. For some reason I don't think your going to admit the giant loophole in your argument.

love,
Heavy D

[Cichy]

if white knighting it means pointing out the fact that you haven't played it so your opinion on it's depth or quality is based soley on what you've read on other forums then I will white knight it so hard. Bottom line is your another person called out for making criticizisms without having played it. I'm going to review a resturaunt without having dined there, I think I'll write "there is nothng great about them, huge design flaws". You must be a top developer to decipher this information without experiencing it.

Yeah, I get it, you wants ur endgames content. How many years into xi was it before dynamis was added? This was not supposed to be end game or substantial story content, just a crowd pleasing activity. I'd figure with how much you post you would have read that. I'm sorry, I rarely post but the ridiculousness of this thread, or some of it's critic/posters i should say, was something I wanted to be addressed. Again, the post was are you tired of the dungeons, not fix this dungeon, what do you think of it? This would mean to me is that the thread was meant for people actually playing the dungeons to comment on. if you came back saying you had experienced the dungeons to some degree your argument might have a sliver of merit. Go experience them and if your opinion is the same I 100% respect that, if you don't, keep your opinion to yourself, IMO... Lol...
I await your undoubtedly defensive rebuttal. For some reason I don't think your going to admit the giant loophole in your argument.

love,
Heavy D

You fail at analogies. Yes I wouldn't review a restaurant without trying it. But I can say I wont try this dish at a restaurant because I dont think it's cooked properly and I know I wont enjoy it.
Oh and dont give me "how many years before dynamis was added?" that excuse was OK in 2002. Another STFU and wait for next patch huh. Smart.