Atma thread #736,238 (No triggers in this one I promise)

[SDaemon]

Horror stories about Atmas does exist but the truth is that they remain a minority of the total

A majority or minority cannot be determined because not everyone is being vocal about the issue. Atma horror stories exist because of the system in place.

[Adler]

Ask your friends or fc members to join your party for Atma farming. They might also need Atmas for themselves or want to just level another job to 50 or just farm seals, whatever.
Statement that SE created content that nobody play is absolutely wrong - I know people that play ff xiv about 10 hours a week and still have got all their Atmas already. What happens now is just the laziest and dumbest part of playerbase are QQ about thousands of FATEs with no Atma although in reality they have spent more time in forums crying than actually grinding for Atma.

[SDaemon]

Ask your friends or fc members to join your party for Atma farming. They might also need Atmas for themselves or want to just level another job to 50 or just farm seals, whatever.
Statement that SE created content that nobody play is absolutely wrong - I know people that play ff xiv about 10 hours a week and still have got all their Atmas already. What happens now is just the laziest and dumbest part of playerbase are QQ about thousands of FATEs with no Atma although in reality they have spent more time in forums crying than actually grinding for Atma.

While that was a jumbled mess of words, I will say first of all that complaints against atma have nothing to do with being lazy and dumb and you are being grossly inaccurate and presumptuous in saying so. Secondly, I know people who play 10 hours a day (granted that is a perk of them being jobless but whatever) and have not gotten all their atma, the fact remains that rng is rng is rng.

[Ooshima]

A majority or minority cannot be determined because not everyone is being vocal about the issue. Atma horror stories exist because of the system in place.

Human nature tells you who are the vocal ones.

People who tend to be vocal about racial discrimination are ones who are the subject of discrimination
People who are vocal about income disparity tends to be those who are of lower to middle income

So on and so forth. People who tend to do well are satisfied and thus, no reason to "complain" - same goes to Atma. You only hear people keep repeating how tough Atma is - have you seen daily threads with different people saying how normal Atma is, or even daily threads complain how easy Atma is obtainable?

[Mugiawara]

What happens now is just the laziest and dumbest part of playerbase are QQ about thousands of FATEs with no Atma although in reality they have spent more time in forums crying than actually grinding for Atma.

Can you ever post without insulting anyone? Seriously, first the Breast Cancer thing, now this.

[Synestr]

Some folks are just sour by nature...

[DoubleEcho]

Let me help you a bit with this. I'm one of those who have done hundreds of FATEs (with Zenith equipped yes) and have yet to obtain a single Atma. And why haven't I posted until before? Because seemingly every person who lodges a complaint is called lazy or told that they are just not doing it right, or their experience is the exception and not the norm.

Perhaps, like me, people don't want to post about it because they've given up on the Atma grind and/or they don't feel like arguing with someone who believes that since they got their Atma everything is just fine and it should work that way for everyone.

[SDaemon]

Human nature tells you who are the vocal ones.

People who tend to be vocal about racial discrimination are ones who are the subject of discrimination
People who are vocal about income disparity tends to be those who are of lower to middle income

So on and so forth. People who tend to do well are satisfied and thus, no reason to "complain" - same goes to Atma. You only hear people keep repeating how tough Atma is - have you seen daily threads with different people saying how normal Atma is, or even daily threads complain how easy Atma is obtainable?

If that is what you wish to believe. It remains though that not everyone in the game, whether they have a disdain for atma or not, uses the forums.

[Coatl]

For those that begrudge the atma farm, do you have the achievement for completing 1000 Fates?

If yes, then I'm really sorry. You truly are unlucky.
If not, then I'm also sorry. You haven't grinded enough!

[SDaemon]

For those that begrudge the atma farm, do you have the achievement for completing 1000 Fates?

If yes, then I'm really sorry. You truly are unlucky.
If not, then I'm also sorry. You haven't grinded enough!

Really? People need to grind over 1000 FATEs to meet your required standard in order to complain? Not that the achievement means anything, especially if you already had it before the atma grind.