Atma thread #736,238 (No triggers in this one I promise)

[BobbinT]

Atma drop rate isn't even that bad, besides some freak occurrences it'll take you about a week of casual 1-2 hour stretches to get them all.

This is coming from someone whose made 3 already and works 50+ hours a week, people should quit complaining about how long it takes to do something and actually do it. And not having time isn't an excuse, if it is then you should probably work on some time management or play a single player game instead.

RNG is RNG my friend, doesn't relate at all with time management. You just lucky you got your 3 set quite fast. Let's see if you sing same tune when RNG decide to mess you up real bad. You only have the choice of keep doing it for a really long time, or quit. And I'm not talking about atma only.

Let's see if you can marry poker with time management. lol

[Marquiss]

RNG is RNG my friend, doesn't relate at all with time management. You just lucky you got your 3 set quite fast. Let's see if you sing same tune when RNG decide to mess you up real bad. You only have the choice of keep doing it for a really long time, or quit. And I'm not talking about atma only.

Let's see if you can marry poker with time management. lol

My first took me 2 months of grinding everyday, I'm not a quitter though.

[DoubleT]

really, we are comparing atmas to Pandemonium Warden now?

[Synestr]

really, we are comparing atmas to Pandemonium Warden now?

If you Trio him with DNC, PUP, and BLU he drops all 12, twice.

[Asael]

really, we are comparing atmas to Pandemonium Warden now?

Apparently so, but rather in this case AV.

Though you really shouldn't say nor write the the full wording for AV as he might hear you. He can smell the despair...

I can still hear that horrifying voice saying those haunting words... I can still hear them at night when I try to sleep... the cold sweats... balance... the balance.

No.. No.. Never again... never... F#*k you Tanaka

[Darki]

really, we are comparing atmas to Pandemonium Warden now?

I'll admit that this is an extreme example. The point I am trying to make is that any mechanic in a game needs to be desirable for a large enough group of people for it to be worth it development wise as an enticement to keep players coming back. I am merely trying offer an alternative solution rather then the ad nausem argument of "drop rates."

[Dragoniks]

How to make atma fun ???
It is so easy !!!
Put them in a real group event !!! I explain :

- First point : Allow atma to be droped on EVERY MONSTER IN THE GAME INCLUDING DUNGEON RAID GUILDLEVES TRIAL FATE.

- Second point : Drop rate increase with the number of ppl in the party. Solo is like now, totaly random. 4 ppl raise the drop rate to 25%.
8 ppl to 50%. CT bosses give a drop rate of 75%. Coil boss and Xtreme fight give a 100% drop rate. Drop rate can be cut in half if you think it is too hight ^^

- Third point : Lock the drop like CT once per week. 12 atma MEANS 12 weeks. That fair enough.

Everyone with this have a fair chance to do it depending of their gameplay type : Casual to hardcore.

Locking the drop one per week can be explained easely : Your weapon is no more available for a few days after geiting an atma ^^

And why not have the atma circling around your weapon when your weapon is out XD

[Marquiss]

How to make atma fun ???
It is so easy !!!
Put them in a real group event !!! I explain :
First point : Allow atma to be droped on EVERY MONSTER IN THE GAME INCLUDING DUNGEON RAID GUILDLEVES TRIAL.
Second point :

Pls uninstall

[BobbinT]

So... how does AV compared to... say... 2nd coil savage mode? XD

[Zohnax]

I don't know why people feel the need to keep reposting up the same thread complaining, (under the guise of making the system better), about atma. Do people really not pay attention to Live Letter translations? Atmas are going to get easier in the future, they're just still deciding when. The question has been constantly popping up, and the answer has been the same every time. It is actually fairly annoying to see Yoshi-P have to constantly answer that question when he could be answering other questions that haven't gotten answers yet.

By the way, XI has a very clear notification to not neglect real life, and the yellow journalism that is that article is asinine to link. The title alone is misleading enough because the boss didn't cause sickness, the players caused it to themselves. They were also weak if they got sick from gaming for 18-hours straight. I went 47 hours straight finishing Nexus and I didn't get sick.