Fix ATMA drop [LIKE] Thread

[Exstal]

and there you go ignorantly defining a duration based on your own luck.

it can be 5 minutes to 65 days because its RNG

Do I really need to put a disclaimer on everything? Everything is RNG. Animus books could take 2 hours for a fate or 10 days because you log off when it pops. I'm getting sick of you interjecting this "because RNG" all the time. There's a reason why it's only a small minority of people complaining about Atma and an entire playerbase not complaining at all.

There is no arguing with you, nor is there with me. Everyone one your side of the argument is providing anecdotal evidence to why Atma needs to be nerfed. I provide anecdotal evidence on why I feel there is no problem. However both of us are wrong anyway. All they needed to do was make it so Atma wasn't a new coat of paint so you actually felt like you're getting an upgrade. However, because I'm not the new generation of MMOer and I played games that were significantly more punishing in terms of RNG, it's simply not possible to convince me that Atma rates are bad.

[TheodoreMcIntyre]

The amount of nerds in here being patronizing just because some people don't like how the atma system works is astounding.

[Tridus1x]

RNG is only applied to Atma. Other parts of the relic are not.

They already nerfed the fate spawns for animus, so why is that okay but not helping people stuck on atma?

Loving the double standard here.

[Darki]

Are you actually suggesting that the game is slanted in this specific person's favor, and that he didn't earn his weapons by getting out there and grinding? What kind of messed up reasoning has this 'gimme gimme gimme I deserve everything for existing' culture given you? The game isn't broken. It's -random-. Get out there and grind if you want it so badly, instead of begging SE to hand you everything on a silver platter.

I think what he is saying (i'm not a mind reader so please take this with a grain of salt,) is that the atma drop system favors the obsessed players. Those who have the best chance of getting something because they spend a life absorbing amount of time on it.

[ruskie]

I agree that they need to buff the drop rate. I went from sub 300 fates when I started atma in april to 1100+ when I got the last drop start of June. And that was with quite a few weekends doing NOTHING but atma farming(started friday afternoon(so some 6h) then saturday(woke up started usually at 09:00/10:00, lunch break, a break here and there... and then went onward to 22:00). My drop rate was... 3 in April when I started, 3 at start of May... then 3 mid May and 3 end of May/start of June. I soloed every fate in quite a few zones and know them by heart now.

I started on my second set when hunts came out using the daily fate hunts... now expanded that to trying for half an hour in a zone. Am on 6/12 so apparently it might be worth not griding it but doing as little as possible each day to increase your chance. I did less fates so far to get half way then it took me before to get half way.

[Noshpan]

How many FATES did you do?

I did every single FATE that popped in that zone for the Atma of the Fish.

For ten hours.

You just got lucky that you didn't have to do that many FATEs for one weapon.

[Duuude007]

I did every single FATE that popped in that zone for the Atma of the Fish.

For ten hours.

You just got lucky that you didn't have to do that many FATEs for one weapon.

This seems to be a deflection of his original question.

Example: Did 10 cumulative fates pop across those 10 hours? You could track your personal rate of fate completions through your achievements, assuming you haven't capped at 3000 yet.

[Ghasto]

Atma sucks, the whole Relic quest sucks, but it's not broken, nor is upgrading your Relic a requirement for anything.

[Aegis]

I think part of the discrepancy between the two viewpoints here is that a large number of posters did their atma farming when it was released, you had 10-20 people minimum per FATE. FATEs didn't last long, you got gold and moved on in about 20 secs per FATE. Now it's not the hip new thing, you're more likely to be solo'ing FATEs which takes 5 mins or so depending on FATE.

Also, the JP method. It may be a placebo, but it worked for me.

Took me about 2 weeks of 4 hours a day FATE farming for my first set of Atma. Took me a week doing less per day for my second set using the JP method, and this was several months after Atma was released, so FATEs took longer.

[Divine_Intervention]

Morning folks.

Thraed statistics so far - 113 likes, 68 replies from members.

I do believe our point may be starting to come clear.

Just to reiterate for those act as though we're asking to date your mother:

You got your atma in a ridiculours time, good for you! This does not mean it is a fine system. Why is nerfing one part of the relic line alright, but not the main part which does absolutely nothing but give you the right to actually start upgrading it's stats.

Atma sucks, the whole Relic quest sucks, but it's not broken, nor is upgrading your Relic a requirement for anything.

By this mentality, noone would ever do anything in an MMO. We all pay for the game, we do enjoy a vast majority of the content, so please SE, take a look into this properly.

disclaimer - we are not saying "give us this part of the weapon with NO work". I personally am a big fan of the concept of having an increasing % chance the longer you spend in an area.