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  1. #21
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrmnus View Post
    So What got him his Atma sets so quickly? Unless of course, he lives nothing but this game?
    Maybe he continued to farm the next atma set the moment a relict weapon got upgraded to Atma.
    It is not that it need a whole month to farm 12 atmas with average luck. Maybe 2 weeks with not a lot of idle between the FATEs.
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  2. #22
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    Sholah's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Delilah Jevhene
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrmnus View Post
    Riiiiight >_>.
    Are you actually suggesting that the game is slanted in this specific person's favor, and that he didn't earn his weapons by getting out there and grinding? What kind of messed up reasoning has this 'gimme gimme gimme I deserve everything for existing' culture given you? The game isn't broken. It's -random-. Get out there and grind if you want it so badly, instead of begging SE to hand you everything on a silver platter.
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  3. #23
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    Noshpan's Avatar
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    Ganth Fyrion
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    It took me over 10 hours to farm the Atma of the Fish for one character of mine. For another character, he's still working on his a combined 24 hours of farming for the Atma that drops in Western Thanalan. This is not hyperbole. I actually spent 10 hours farming for a single Atma. I've had to take breaks from Atma farming in order to keep what remains of my sanity.

    The RNG can provide swift results for some people, or the extreme opposite for others. And when the results are painfully slow, it just doesn't feel rewarding.

    So while I'm not against RNG, I would not complain if they were to adjust the RNG to be less frustrating in the case of Atma.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

  4. #24
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    Asael's Avatar
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    Asael Drakengard
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    Cactuar
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sholah View Post
    Are you actually suggesting that the game is slanted in this specific person's favor...
    Yes, because only naive people think Skynet isn't real, and is just simply science fiction. This game is sentient and self-aware and likes to pick favorites just to spite other human beings.
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  5. #25
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    Eggnook24's Avatar
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    Egg Soup
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    Exodus
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    Scholar Lv 50
    I've never seen a thread like this before. Imagine, people want ATMA changed! Good job OP.
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  6. #26
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    abzoluut's Avatar
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    Abzoluut Abzoluut
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    Odin
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Can you give us information on how you work for your Atma's? I'm just curious.

    Every time I see a "Atma sux" post, people rarely mention how they tackle this content. Would love to read an honest experience.
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  7. #27
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    OdinEon's Avatar
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    Char Landale
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    Mateus
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    Gladiator Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by polyhedral View Post
    More like, living off mommy and daddy and not having a job.
    I have a wife kids and a full time job, i wonder how I ever managed to get my atma.....again don't expect everything to be handed to you, this is a longterm living mmorpg, put in a little time, or maybe play something else.
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  8. #28
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    Tridus1x's Avatar
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    Soup Sifu
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by OdinEon View Post
    Dedication.
    RNG is RNG. Like you said. Didn't require any skill, just luck.

    Atma needs to be changed, end of the story. I am one of the players that can easily get an atma drop in less than an hour and I think there needs to be a change.
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  9. #29
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    Exstal's Avatar
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by polyhedral View Post
    More like, living off mommy and daddy and not having a job.
    How long as Atma been out? People with average luck complete one Atma weapon in 25~45 hours time or 400~700 fates.

    6 months => 24 weeks
    =>4032 hours - 960 hours (work full time)
    =>3072 hours - 1344 hours (sleep 8 hours)
    =>1728 hours - 450 hours (10 atma weapons in hours)
    => 1278 hours

    So we end up with a guesstimate of 1278 hours total left over to do other things. Now this is a crude calculation but given the amount of time Atma has been out it's quite easily possible to attain 10. Even if you decide that it'll take 90 hours per Atma (which is more than it takes to complete Animus) you still have over 800 hours of non-FFXIV time to do other things.

    So if you work full time, have kids, and life and still don't have 10 Atma weapons..what are you even doing?
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    Last edited by Exstal; 10-01-2014 at 06:43 AM. Reason: math mistakes

  10. #30
    Player
    OdinEon's Avatar
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    Char Landale
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus1x View Post
    I am one of the players that can easily get an atma drop in less than an hour and I think there needs to be a change.
    If you can easily get one in an hour so can the OP.
    Or maybe Yoshi is reading this and laughing as he pushes the no atma for you because you cry about atma on the forum button.
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