Fix ATMA drop [LIKE] Thread

[Amused]

Tome grinding and following some vague, only tangentially related steps from a book for a few stat points on my weapon every week is something I can get behind. Unfortunately I happen to agree with a whole lot of people that the Atma portion is just plain not enjoyable vOv

Too bad. Suck it up and do it like everyone else had and has to. I'm still doing Atma for other jobs but you don't see me coming here and crying like an entitled child hoping to get their way.

[MrLeonheart]

Too bad. Suck it up and do it like everyone else had and has to. I'm still doing Atma for other jobs but you don't see me coming here and crying like an entitled child hoping to get their way.

Thank you for the unprompted insult. You seem like an extremely pleasant person with whom I would enjoy associating.

[Amused]

Thank you for the unprompted insult. You seem like an extremely pleasant person with whom I would enjoy associating.

I wasn't directing it at you.

If people can't manage to do the steps required to get the weapon then clearly they don't want it badly enough and don't deserve to have it.

[neko_miyuu]

If you want to catch up, put in the work to do it. Don't ask them for handouts. You have plenty of other weapons you can use to catch up in item level.

This is purely a "they have shiny thing and I want it too, but I don't want to have to work for it like they did" situation.

I don't care about the shiny, I find the nexus ugly. I want it for its stats and the sake of achievement. But all of my free time (because I say it again, all my free time goes into catching up on FFXIV) isn't enough to get the ATMA until the next level of relic arrives, and i'd be stuck in an infinite loop not being able to enjoy the rest of the game if i kept doing it.

The reason why they unlocked myths cap, or binding coil restrictions was to allow slower (or busy) players to catch up. We're simply asking SE to do the same for the previous stages of the relic.

[Damane]

Too bad. Suck it up and do it like everyone else had and has to. I'm still doing Atma for other jobs but you don't see me coming here and crying like an entitled child hoping to get their way.

my biggest gripe with atma is that the only source for it is fates, i wouldnt mind RNG if i could get atmas from various stuff like duty roulettes, Hardmode primals, EX primals, hard dungeon and expert dungeon. Fates get after a while so dull, so it would be nice to spice it up a bit.

[Amused]

I want it for its stats and the sake of achievement.

The stats provide a negligible benefit over items of equivalent ilvl. So, with that out of the way, all that's left is the achievement portion of it. If you claim to want it for the sake of achievement, why would you want it to be made easier? That would just cheapen the achievement aspect of it. Not much of an achievement if you have to put in a minimal amount of effort to obtain it.

You don't need to catch up. You don't need a relic. If you want it as badly as you claim to, work for it. If you don't want to work for it, you don't deserve to have it. It's as simple as that. Get another weapon. It will be just as good as the relic if it's the same item level.

[Volcano]

I wasn't directing it at you.

If people can't manage to do the steps required to get the weapon then clearly they don't want it badly enough and don't deserve to have it.

You do realize this is not about the actual step of getting the weapon, it's the terrible RNG process of it. No thinking is required to do 99% of fates in this game so no one has an actual issue with doing the quest, it's spending large amounts of time trying to hope RNG is on your side. You DO understand the difference, right?

[Amused]

You do realize this is not about the actual step of getting the weapon, it's the terrible RNG process of it. No thinking is required to do 99% of fates in this game so no one has an actual issue with doing the quest, it's spending large amounts of time trying to hope RNG is on your side. You DO understand the difference, right?

I completely understand the difference. It's only one step of the relic, and it's in all honesty not even close to as bad as people on the forums make it out to be.

Just deal with it. Why do you feel entitled to something without having to put in the effort to obtain it? What makes you so deserving?

[Aegis]

Personally, I'd like the relics to be on the same level of grind and accomplishment as in XI (pre-Abby). Essentially, no more than 100 weapons of any one type on the server and make them hands-down the best weapons out there.

Relics used to mean something.

[Volcano]

I completely understand the difference. It's only one step of the relic, and it's in all honesty not even close to as bad as people on the forums make it out to be.

Just deal with it. Why do you feel entitled to something without having to put in the effort to obtain it? What makes you so deserving?

No, you don't understand, just because you got lucky with quick atmas "i assume that is why you are throwing the i had no issues with it, so there is nothing wrong" card out does not mean it's the same for everyone else, try spending 4 weeks of grinding and you only have 2/12 atams to show for it, how accomplished will you feel. knowing 5 other people finished before you.