Fix ATMA drop [LIKE] Thread

[Tridus1x]

RNG is only applied to Atma. Other parts of the relic are not.

They already nerfed the fate spawns for animus, so why is that okay but not helping people stuck on atma?

Loving the double standard here.

[ruskie]

I agree that they need to buff the drop rate. I went from sub 300 fates when I started atma in april to 1100+ when I got the last drop start of June. And that was with quite a few weekends doing NOTHING but atma farming(started friday afternoon(so some 6h) then saturday(woke up started usually at 09:00/10:00, lunch break, a break here and there... and then went onward to 22:00). My drop rate was... 3 in April when I started, 3 at start of May... then 3 mid May and 3 end of May/start of June. I soloed every fate in quite a few zones and know them by heart now.

I started on my second set when hunts came out using the daily fate hunts... now expanded that to trying for half an hour in a zone. Am on 6/12 so apparently it might be worth not griding it but doing as little as possible each day to increase your chance. I did less fates so far to get half way then it took me before to get half way.

[Ghasto]

Atma sucks, the whole Relic quest sucks, but it's not broken, nor is upgrading your Relic a requirement for anything.

[Divine_Intervention]

Morning folks.

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I do believe our point may be starting to come clear.

Just to reiterate for those act as though we're asking to date your mother:

You got your atma in a ridiculours time, good for you! This does not mean it is a fine system. Why is nerfing one part of the relic line alright, but not the main part which does absolutely nothing but give you the right to actually start upgrading it's stats.

Atma sucks, the whole Relic quest sucks, but it's not broken, nor is upgrading your Relic a requirement for anything.

By this mentality, noone would ever do anything in an MMO. We all pay for the game, we do enjoy a vast majority of the content, so please SE, take a look into this properly.

disclaimer - we are not saying "give us this part of the weapon with NO work". I personally am a big fan of the concept of having an increasing % chance the longer you spend in an area.

[Aegis]

Morning folks.

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About half of these are people arguing its fine. And you don't include a 'No' option

[Duuude007]

I asked for no arguing but hey, it's gonna happen.

You expected people to comply with this, when the topic is already so controversial?

[Aegis]

Well, about half of these people arguing must have chosen not to read the OP properly then. I asked for no arguing but hey, it's gonna happen.

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[Aegis]

I think part of the discrepancy between the two viewpoints here is that a large number of posters did their atma farming when it was released, you had 10-20 people minimum per FATE. FATEs didn't last long, you got gold and moved on in about 20 secs per FATE. Now it's not the hip new thing, you're more likely to be solo'ing FATEs which takes 5 mins or so depending on FATE.

Also, the JP method. It may be a placebo, but it worked for me.

Took me about 2 weeks of 4 hours a day FATE farming for my first set of Atma. Took me a week doing less per day for my second set using the JP method, and this was several months after Atma was released, so FATEs took longer.

[Nestama]

Relic: Chimera is nerfed, Amdapor Keep is nerfed (to oblivion) and Hydra and the Primals are given the Echo. Easier to acquire Relic now, whereas it was an effort back in 2.0
Zenith: Easiest step. 900 Myth and you're done (now will most likely need... 450 Soldiery in 2.4?)
Atma: Spend minutes, hours, days, months hoping to get a single Atma that will go towards you getting the Atma weapon. Nothing has changed.
Animus: Easier to get Myth for books now, I hear FATE's now have a quicker pop rate than before, meaning it is much easier to get an Animus now.
Novus: Daily roulette to get map for Alexandrite. Buy map with 800 Myth OR buy the Alexandrite with Allied Seals. Can either make your own materia or buy it. Can also decide if you want two stats that require Tier IV materias or three/four additional stats that only require Tier III's.
Nexus: Do Cape Westwind (and other stuff) for a few hours a day.

Atma (and Nexus, but that is still fairly recent) is currently the only step that has not been nerfed in any way.