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    Player
    Duuude007's Avatar
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noshpan View Post
    I did every single FATE that popped in that zone for the Atma of the Fish.

    For ten hours.

    You just got lucky that you didn't have to do that many FATEs for one weapon.
    This seems to be a deflection of his original question.

    Example: Did 10 cumulative fates pop across those 10 hours? You could track your personal rate of fate completions through your achievements, assuming you haven't capped at 3000 yet.
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    Last edited by Duuude007; 10-01-2014 at 05:55 PM.

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    Ganth Fyrion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    This seems to be a deflection of his original question.

    Example: Did 10 cumulative fates pop across those 10 hours? You could track your personal rate of fate completions through your achievements, assuming you haven't capped at 3000 yet.
    That's assuming that only 1 FATE popped per hour. There were far, far more than 10 FATEs to have popped during that 10 hour stint. Dozens. I stopped counting after 80-something FATEs in that zone. The only FATE in Lower La Noscea that comes close to being like one that only spawns every so many hours is that mandragora prince that spawns near Candle-something Whatever.

    But thanks for trying to belittle the effort I put in just for that one single Atma that I had horrible RNG and luck with. Thanks for belittle everyone whom have not been so lucky as to be able to get all 12 Atma in 14 hours.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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    I've never seen a thread like this before. Imagine, people want ATMA changed! Good job OP.
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    Can you give us information on how you work for your Atma's? I'm just curious.

    Every time I see a "Atma sux" post, people rarely mention how they tackle this content. Would love to read an honest experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polyhedral View Post
    More like, living off mommy and daddy and not having a job.
    I have a wife kids and a full time job, i wonder how I ever managed to get my atma.....again don't expect everything to be handed to you, this is a longterm living mmorpg, put in a little time, or maybe play something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus1x View Post
    I am one of the players that can easily get an atma drop in less than an hour and I think there needs to be a change.
    If you can easily get one in an hour so can the OP.
    Or maybe Yoshi is reading this and laughing as he pushes the no atma for you because you cry about atma on the forum button.
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    Player Rex's Avatar
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    Lol, ohhh OP. You just joined the forum in June. If you do some research, the ATMA drop rate "complaint" HAS been addressed....and guess what? It's also in English!

    Please, do some research...you are, like many others have in the past, beating a dead horse. You're late for that train, because the time for complaining about atma has come and gone a while ago.

    The team is aware that people are unhappy with the drop rate, and have said it is currently not planned to be changed. However, like most MMOs, down the road this probably WILL change..but it's not happening soon. There's no need to constantly....make new threads.....they answered....


    Besides, how long have you really spent total on solely farming atma? I got mine in a total of maybe 8 hours of JUST FATE grinding. That's much shorter than the amount of time it took me to get from Animus to Novus...but that's because I took my time.


    Regardless, it's been addressed, no need to be all "SE doesn't like to speak English" because that's just disrespectful, especially when you didn't even care enough to look for the answer and you're making these condescending remarks.

    Now everyone in here can continue to go on and on about "This needs to change. This is wrong. I demand change. Change change change." But like I said...they already addressed this, and they're aware you're all unhappy. There's no need to continue.
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    Last edited by Rex; 10-01-2014 at 06:40 AM.

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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    Lol, ohhh OP. You just joined the forum in June. If you do some research, the ATMA drop rate "complaint" HAS been addressed....and guess what? It's also in English!

    Please, do some research...you are, like many others have in the past, beating a dead horse. You're late for that train, because the time for complaining about atma has come and gone a while ago.

    The team is aware that people are unhappy with the drop rate, and have said it is currently not planned to be changed. However, like most MMOs, down the road this probably WILL change..but it's not happening soon. There's no need to constantly....make new threads.....they answered....
    Perhaps i missed it but were did they reply and are aware of this? Not arguing just curious as to if there was a answer directly from SE
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    Asael Drakengard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    Perhaps i missed it but were did they reply and are aware of this? Not arguing just curious as to if there was a answer directly from SE
    It came up in an interview at Gamescom back in August.

    So the drop rate for Atma won't be increased just yet?

    Correct. I've said it before, but I'll repeat it, the drop rate of Atma really isn't that low....
    Original source: http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/910/910080/ (although you probably won't understand it if you don't speak Japanese.)

    Translated source by Slycer: http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/123...ki-at-Gamescom

    Just Ctrl+F and search atma and it will take you straight to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    snippety
    Joined forums in June.. joined game at ps3 release with a different character.. so yeah.. good job for trying to throw peoples join dates around xD

    Spent farming? On one atma i spent 3 weeks before a single drop..
    8 whole hours for your atma ? HOWEVER did you manage? Oh yeah right.. your one of the very vast minority whom it's been simple enough for and therefore feel justified being vainglorious.
    I have never intended disrespect, only observation. Go read the forums yourself for information on "liked threads being noticed more by developers".

    So, thanks for your input, have a nice day

    And for those asking for a No option, I didn't make this as a Poll, i made it as a place people who agree can like it. I'm sorry, but I've seen enough people jumping down members throats for daring to ask for a change to what is essentially a crappy system.

    Ilvl 90 Zenith > Ilvl 100 Atma , no stat upgrade.. can take anything from ??? to ??? hours/days/weeks etc.
    Fresh Level 50 > ilvl 90.. an hour or so of farming hunts.
    Atma > Animus - a very reasonable, progressable grind.
    Animus > Novus - A little more difficult/time consuming (farming gil, back to farming hunts), but still reasonable.
    Novus > Nexus - I don't completley understand this system, but AFAIK, grind dungeons etc for light, still reasonable.

    P.S for those telling me to stop moaning on here.. i have actually completed my atma for the class i enjoy. Once again, per other posts on atma i have made, i DON'T mind a justifiable, reasonable and measurable grind, as I'm sure many who agree with the OP feel.
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    Last edited by Divine_Intervention; 10-01-2014 at 08:50 AM. Reason: tired, wrong words in places :/

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