Fix ATMA drop [LIKE] Thread

[Squa11_Leonhart]

So I mentioned this earlier in this thread but it took me 360 fates for all 12 atma. In the last 3 days, I just grinded all 12 atma again. This time it only took 190 fates. Maybe SE did already increase the drop rate? Or maybe I was just luckier. Regardless, grinding atma in a short amount of time is totally doable. Hours-wise, it took me <15 hours (I used 30 Gysahl Greens plus sometimes my choco died). Anyway, I'm sure SE will increase the drop rate eventually. I wouldn't be surprised if they did it with 2.4 but I'd say definitely by the time of the expansion.

They didn't, the algorithm was just in your favour

[Lexiii]

So I mentioned this earlier in this thread but it took me 360 fates for all 12 atma. In the last 3 days, I just grinded all 12 atma again. This time it only took 190 fates. Maybe SE did already increase the drop rate? Or maybe I was just luckier. Regardless, grinding atma in a short amount of time is totally doable. Hours-wise, it took me <15 hours (I used 30 Gysahl Greens plus sometimes my choco died). Anyway, I'm sure SE will increase the drop rate eventually. I wouldn't be surprised if they did it with 2.4 but I'd say definitely by the time of the expansion.

RNG is RNG is RNG. I just finished mine and it took over 550 fates. The 3% drop rate hasn't changed.

[Squa11_Leonhart]

RNG is RNG is RNG. I just finished mine and it took over 550 fates. The 3% drop rate hasn't changed.

Statistics involving atma drops have already set the drop rate at 1%.

[Lexiii]

Statistics involving atma drops have already set the drop rate at 1%.

There's absolutely no way this is true. This puts the average time for Atma at 1,200 FATEs. The distribution doesn't match anything I've seen.

[neko_miyuu]

I have pretty much given up on the relic weapon because of that. There is no reward in grinding for days/weeks/month on easy fates to get atma. I'd rather farm primals and dungeons because at least if I don't get my drop I'll get experience on the instances and tomes.

With the Relic now on Nexus, SE should ease the ATMA farming to encourage players to carry on those weapons. Especially because players want to have more than one job, and they have to do ATMA farming for every single one of them.

[Amused]

If you don't like Atma, don't do it. You don't need a relic weapon. Just use the alternatives rather than trying to force them to change content that wasn't designed for you. It's nice to have long term goals to work toward in this game.

[neko_miyuu]

If you don't like Atma, don't do it. You don't need a relic weapon. Just use the alternatives rather than trying to force them to change content that wasn't designed for you. It's nice to have long term goals to work toward in this game.

Long term goal yes, but only for one stage. Like Gallus said, the whole process to get your relic up to date is obscene (Zenith-Atma-Animus-Novus and now Nexus). I play during all my free time, that's almost every night and all weekends, didn't get a single atma so I decided to grind i110 gear and EX primal instead.

For a player that starts his relic, he now will never get it, because of how soon the next step arrives. So yes, it is nice to have a long-term goal when you're at the highest level and a new one comes up (Novus to Nexus), but like they eased the CT 1 and Binding Coil, they should also ease ATMA to let time to new players or slow ones like me a chance to catch up.

[Amused]

Long term goal yes, but only for one stage. Like Gallus said, the whole process to get your relic up to date is obscene (Zenith-Atma-Animus-Novus and now Nexus). I play during all my free time, that's almost every night and all weekends, didn't get a single atma so I decided to grind i110 gear and EX primal instead.

For a player that starts his relic, he now will never get it, because of how soon the next step arrives. So yes, it is nice to have a long-term goal when you're at the highest level and a new one comes up (Novus to Nexus), but like they eased the CT 1 and Binding Coil, they should also ease ATMA to let time to new players or slow ones like me a chance to catch up.

If you want to catch up, put in the work to do it. Don't ask them for handouts. You have plenty of other weapons you can use to catch up in item level.

This is purely a "they have shiny thing and I want it too, but I don't want to have to work for it like they did" situation.

Be grateful you don't have to speed run Brayflox hard mode for myth to do the books. That was far worse than Atma ever could have dreamed of being.

[neko_miyuu]

If you want to catch up, put in the work to do it. Don't ask them for handouts. You have plenty of other weapons you can use to catch up in item level.

This is purely a "they have shiny thing and I want it too, but I don't want to have to work for it like they did" situation.

I don't care about the shiny, I find the nexus ugly. I want it for its stats and the sake of achievement. But all of my free time (because I say it again, all my free time goes into catching up on FFXIV) isn't enough to get the ATMA until the next level of relic arrives, and i'd be stuck in an infinite loop not being able to enjoy the rest of the game if i kept doing it.

The reason why they unlocked myths cap, or binding coil restrictions was to allow slower (or busy) players to catch up. We're simply asking SE to do the same for the previous stages of the relic.

[Amused]

I want it for its stats and the sake of achievement.

The stats provide a negligible benefit over items of equivalent ilvl. So, with that out of the way, all that's left is the achievement portion of it. If you claim to want it for the sake of achievement, why would you want it to be made easier? That would just cheapen the achievement aspect of it. Not much of an achievement if you have to put in a minimal amount of effort to obtain it.

You don't need to catch up. You don't need a relic. If you want it as badly as you claim to, work for it. If you don't want to work for it, you don't deserve to have it. It's as simple as that. Get another weapon. It will be just as good as the relic if it's the same item level.