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    Virus and DK

    Hi all could someone help me out in conforming my thoughts on the tooltips of Virus and Dragon Kcik.
    Virus deacreses the STR,DEX,INT and mind by 15% what in turn deacreses the targets dmg but it also increases dmg taken by the target (at least thats what i see whenever i figiht and a virus is aplied 95% of the time i see bigger numbers)

    This brings me to my question Dragon kick Reduces the Blunt resistence and INT of the target by 10%.
    Would that mean that it also in turn increases the magic dmg taken by the target similiar as how virus works? some of the casters i have spoken to say they do see beter results regarding there dmg when they have a monk in the group others say they dont see a difrence. Did anyone test it out already and has some theories about this?

    Ps:sry for the gramar and propably a lot of typos...
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    INT has no relationship to incoming damage. In fact, enemies have no DEF/MDEF to speak of, they all take 100% damage unless they have some form of buff specific to that enemy, much like a tank CD.
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    Virus does not increase the damage a boss takes. That is just confirmation bias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    INT has no relationship to incoming damage. In fact, enemies have no DEF/MDEF to speak of, they all take 100% damage unless they have some form of buff specific to that enemy, much like a tank CD.
    Oh really how did u explain my 1800 Full Thrust against Nael and sub 1500 Full Thrust against t6 savage mid bulb?
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    Virus doesn't increase damage taken by the boss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empressia View Post
    Oh really how did u explain my 1800 Full Thrust against Nael and sub 1500 Full Thrust against t6 savage mid bulb?
    Because all damage is done through a calculation that has a range, let's say 80%-120% damage. These numbers aren't exact I assure you, but for simplicity sake, we'll use that. So 1500-1800 makes perfect sense, not because of any buffs or debuffs, but simply because that's the nature of DPS. Crits are the same way, they have a range of damage they can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empressia View Post
    Oh really how did u explain my 1800 Full Thrust against Nael and sub 1500 Full Thrust against t6 savage mid bulb?
    Disembowel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jican View Post
    Because all damage is done through a calculation that has a range, let's say 80%-120% damage. These numbers aren't exact I assure you, but for simplicity sake, we'll use that. So 1500-1800 makes perfect sense, not because of any buffs or debuffs, but simply because that's the nature of DPS. Crits are the same way, they have a range of damage they can do.
    It's around +/-5% i.e. 1425-1575
    Or if 1500 was the low end 1500-1650.

    So somewhere Empressia had an additional 10% damage.

    Iseotle is probably correct as Disembowl would be the difference between a bulb and Nael
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empressia View Post
    Oh really how did u explain my 1800 Full Thrust against Nael and sub 1500 Full Thrust against t6 savage mid bulb?
    Disembowel (you're probably not Disemboweling a bulb, while it will be on Nael any time you're doing a Full Thrust), different buffs up, damage range being +0% to +10% from minimum damage.
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 10-04-2014 at 05:12 AM.

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    Definitely disembowel.
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