Relic Weapon Upgrade

[JonBigwood]

tl;dr is that yes, it IS an utterly atrocious system but SE will probably never do anything about it.

I think atma drop rate is higher now than it used to be at first (no proof), and I think it will be made easier in the future.

At launch it used to take several weeks. I used to get 1 or 2 atma per week, twice I got 3 atmas, twice 0 atmas in a week. I did the daily roulettes so didn't farm atma all the time. And don't play a lot of hours a day. Other friends who play more time and farmed hard got it not a lot earlier than I did.

Increasing the drop rate of atmas and alexandrites is super easy, and they don't need to go making it public. By the way, I don't know from where comes the fact that alexandrites and atmas have the same drop rate and is 5%. I have never seen an alexandrite drop and I have been doing FATES for it (not farming, just doing the ones I met.) I think atmas drop rate was more near 1 or 2% at first than 5%. Now it might be 5%, I don't know.

[Zaresin]

tl;dr is that yes, it IS an utterly atrocious system but SE will probably never do anything about it.

My biggest issue with this system is how lazily planned it feels. I LOVE FF games and they were always exciting (FFX lightning dodging while annoying was exciting because you got excited when you dodged that lightning) but this??? No it isn't exciting nor is it fun. This is something I would expect from an intern with no experience in game design...not from an actual game developer. Maybe I had too high of an expectation in reguards to quality when it comes to the FF franchise. I don't want the system to be easy, I just want it to be fun and not feel like my time would be better spent sleeping.

[RockGodOne]

but who wants to farm fates for 2-3 hours at a time to get nothing?

You most certainly are not getting nothing from 2-3 hours of fate grinding. You are getting tons of GC seals. Even the gil adds up and more than covers teleporting costs. I use all my GC seals on Ventures so I have a constant 3 retainers always out. I complained too until I got my animus and quickly ran out of Ventures due to me no longer having GC seals.

You also have to think about more than yourself here. That\\'s why SE won\\'t ever change this. Fate grinding can really help lower level people. People who aren\\'t 50 yet. Dps ques are terrible for under 50. I usually do fates while I wait. It be nice to have other people help me with them. Oh look, an Atma farming party!

[Zaresin]

You also have to think about more than yourself here. That\\'s why SE won\\'t ever change this. Fate grinding can really help lower level people. People who aren\\'t 50 yet. Dps ques are terrible for under 50. I usually do fates while I wait. It be nice to have other people help me with them. Oh look, an Atma farming party!

Fate farming actually used to be the fastest way to level a class after you finished your first due to the abysmal xp you got from dungeons. The devs said they were happy with the xp from dungeons at the time. That is no longer the case, hence the increase in xp gained from quests. Yes the horrendous and poorly thought out system that is the relic quest line will change as time goes on as the iLVL increases and due to casual gamers being the money makers, it will be made easier and faster as time goes on. To be honest, I look forward to that day as doing two relics has made me hate logging in as it is the same crap over and over again. Farmed two sets of atma and still missing a couple to complete for my second set.

Customizable weapons will always be the best in the game due to how flexable their stats are in the end compared to their static counterparts of the same iLVL. I like having the best gear. I like working hard to get it. I don't like the hard part is trying to stay interested in a game because you are doing the same thing for hours on end. I should be having fun. This was the same argument made about leveling classes when the game first came out. As smart as the developers are, you have to wonder if they have alzhiemers or some other mental disorder to recycle the same issue back into another area of the game.

[RockGodOne]

Well I'm currently working on my 2nd Atma set and I don't really find it boring at all. I go with friends and chit chat to make it go by faster. I'm also loving that I have tons of GC seals again. I went like a week without sending any of my 3 retainers on Quick Explorations due to not having any seals to buy Ventures with.

Idk, I've just played the worst game ever for many years (GMS Maplestory), so I'm used to getting thru a lot of really bad game mechanics. FATE grinding is way better than what that game had you do..... Forcing you to buy the gear off of the market for billions of in game currency (some people even sell the games on other websites for hundreds of real life money...). Hackers control that game so they just DC you if you try to kill the boss (that's the ONLY way to get mid-end game gear in that game.... boss drops).

I'll take this over that any day lol.

[RockGodOne]

Well I'm currently working on my 2nd Atma set and I don't really find it boring at all. I go with friends and chit chat to make it go by faster. I'm also loving that I have tons of GC seals again. I went like a week without sending any of my 3 retainers on Quick Explorations due to not having any seals to buy Ventures with.

Idk, I've just played the worst game ever for many years (GMS Maplestory), so I'm used to getting thru a lot of really bad game mechanics. FATE grinding is way better than what that game had you do..... Forcing you to buy the gear off of the market for billions of in game currency (some people even sell the gear on other websites for hundreds of real life money...). Hackers control that game so they just DC you if you try to kill the boss (that's the ONLY way to get mid-end game gear in that game.... boss drops and most of it isn't even instanced).

I'll take this over that any day lol.