Simian Thrash ENHANCED!

[NoctisUmbra]

Not often a PUG solo's unless he is farming @R50, and not often will a PUG take the bit of DMG over a stun if they're tanking in a group. It just keeps Simian Thrash as a less needed ability when compared with Jarring Strike, and as far as I'm concerned, Stun from evade > DMG from an evade.

Sure it is situational. More often than not the stun is preferred. Hell I keep Haymaker, Jarring Strike & Simian Thrash on bar. Most of the time when tanking I will use Haymaker > Jarring Strike on an evade but given the TP and the desire to do damage Simian Thrash is a very viable option.

Making it just another WS, like I said earlier, makes it another Victimize II with a long, flashy animation. It takes away any unique aspect it had to it.

In my opinion, situational high damage counter > long animation Victimize II.

Also, when compared to Jarring Strike II, Simian Thrash adds more than just a "bit of damage."

[AlphaDragoon]

Agreed with the OP. It's lame that the strongest Pugilist attack can really only be used if they're soloing or being a tank, while other "ultimate" weapon skills such as Chaos Thrust have no such requirement.

From what I recall from the whole class balancing thing Yoshida said he's gonna make Pugilist into more of a pure DD class, so maybe it'll change.

[Keftenk]

Luls "ultimate" ability talks, I feel bad for MRD!

[AlphaDragoon]

Luls "ultimate" ability talks, I feel bad for MRD!

Well Marauder gets screwed ten ways from Sunday anyway, they need a LOT of fixing come the class rebalance.

[Keftenk]

Yea, but SE is terrible at balancing, it'll never be made into what it should be.

[Gath]

I think they will have PUG and MRD balanced out, they know MRD needs tweaking, at least I hope they know.

[Dreadnought]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOhHrqHdv-8

this ability? idk about the evade part since i dont have this ability yet but i dont understand everyones problem with the way it looks.... it looks just like every other flashy effect from FFXI-FFXIV.
the game is horribly subdued as it is, you want the spell/ability effects even more subdued than they already are?
so far this is the only ability that ive seen that isnt as boring as LNC effects.

[Konachibi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOhHrqHdv-8

this ability? idk about the evade part since i dont have this ability yet but i dont understand everyones problem with the way it looks.... it looks just like every other flashy effect from FFXI-FFXIV.
the game is horribly subdued as it is, you want the spell/ability effects even more subdued than they already are?
so far this is the only ability that ive seen that isnt as boring as LNC effects.

I'd agree with the OP and say it is unnecessarily orbish, random clouds of smoke/explosions would look a bit funkier.

[Madruk]

Or they can just finally put in the real man's WS, Asuran Fists.

[NoctisUmbra]

Or they can just finally put in the real man's WS, Asuran Fists.

Yea I look forward to Asuran Fists as well - probably going to be a MNK skill though.