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    Kiokin's Avatar
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    Kio Kurokami
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    Tonberry
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TomTom1968 View Post
    I only know one guy who seriously plays a Dragoon as main class and he is one of the best players I have ever met. When I did the relict for my Dragoon just for the sake of completing it, I asked him for a roation. He first showed me one to use without looking like an idiot for what I need during the Relict quest and then he showed me his combo, normal and burst one. Boy, that was a headache of skills depending on each other and various conditions. It was more than a dozen of skills used in a strict order but including variations when certain conditions are given. I have lots of respect since this for Dragoons who know to play their class well.
    They aren't half as complicated as they look. The guide on the DPS role forum has crappy formatting. It's just a simple priority system.
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    Nel Artux
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    Asura
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyBones View Post
    My rotation includes 16 skills. And about 5 situational skills outside of rotation. Go read a guide or something.
    Huh ? the rotation ( well it's more a priority order ) only have 8-9 skills , 3 for the damage combo, 3 for the debuff combo, 1 or 2 Dots and the buff on the side, not counting the big CD skills obviously...
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    Huh ? the rotation ( well it's more a priority order ) only have 8-9 skills , 3 for the damage combo, 3 for the debuff combo, 1 or 2 Dots and the buff on the side, not counting the big CD skills obviously...
    Sigh...if you don't always use those 9 skills in the order of 123456789 in that order with no variance whatsoever...yes, DRG's rotation is long, 16 sounds about right.
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    J'azih Dahj
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    Moogle
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiokin View Post
    Dragoons do not rotationally use 15-20 skills. What in the crap are you talking about.
    My burst rotation, off the top of my head is as follows:

    Spineshatter Dive > Heavy Thrust > Impulse Drive > Leg Sweep > Disembowel > Blood for Blood > Chaos Thrust > Internal Release > Phlebotomise > Power Surge > True Thrust > Jump > Vorpal Thrust > Life Surge > Full Thrust > Dragonfire Dive

    May have got the order wrong, as it's off my head. But that is 16 non repeating moves. Then you can weave in defensive cooldowns and pots. Plus I don't run fracture, which I could include in there somewhere.
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by BristolRuss View Post
    My burst rotation, off the top of my head is as follows:

    Spineshatter Dive > Heavy Thrust > Impulse Drive > Leg Sweep > Disembowel > Blood for Blood > Chaos Thrust > Internal Release > Phlebotomise > Power Surge > True Thrust > Jump > Vorpal Thrust > Life Surge > Full Thrust > Dragonfire Dive

    May have got the order wrong, as it's off my head. But that is 16 non repeating moves. Then you can weave in defensive cooldowns and pots. Plus I don't run fracture, which I could include in there somewhere.
    Why are you counting cooldowns? You don't use those rotationally.
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    Player BristolRuss's Avatar
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    J'azih Dahj
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    Moogle
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiokin View Post
    Why are you counting cooldowns? You don't use those rotationally.
    You do if they are available. And that rotation about is how I start most fights, so.
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    Neridia Neririncia
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    Tonberry
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Reason that drg died a lot I guess it's probably because they have the lowest mdef of all the jobs? And probably because of jump to, if you use it at the wrong time.
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    Kenshiro Joestar
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    I almost never die unless it's a wipe, no matter if I play with DRG, MNK, BLM or whatever, I just prefer to lower my DPS and pay attention to AOE's and avoid taking damage, because I'll deal more if i'm alive the whole fight, even if I have to miss some parts of my rotation to avoid getting killed.
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    Leowald Chestwood
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Dragoon is one of my "main" classes. Dragoon and Monk are a bit harder to play than other classes. You have to move all the time from side to the back of boss to use all your skills and it's also harder to dodge things which happen near the boss. Disciples of Magic hit from far away so it's easier to dodge some aoes and they also use Sprint making dodge so easy. Also Dragoons have low magic defence and I read somewhere that they are looking into this and maybe they will fix it. Also don't forget Dragoon is a very common class. There are more active Dragoons than Monks. From the other side I don't find dead Dragoons the biggest problem. I hate BLM's who hit or spam Flare before tank get's the aggro and when the mobs going after them they start running like idiots not allowing the tank to take aggro back. Or stupid BRDs who never use a fokin song ever or people who never follow the Signs on Mobs ever even after you politely explain to them.
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    Last edited by Riardon; 09-30-2014 at 06:55 PM.

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    Derek Hale
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    whenever I do DR Trials and Titan HM pops up, I always see Dragoons being thrown around like rag dolls by titty's Landslide.

    it seems they are not even TRYING, to dodge.
    it's hilarious.
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