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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    I didn't. Or you can provide a quote of me where I say "T5 should be solo content or 4 man puggable". As far as I know (and I've checked back the original discussion for a few pages, to be sure), I never said anything more than "remove instant kill mechanics and reduce a bit hard hitting moves". You know, exactly what they did for T2 and T4, and for T6-8. But not for T5 (despite T5 being a useless wall now) nor T9 (which is STILL relevant as it block's T10 access, so I have no problem of it not being nerfed). I talked about Alexander as SCOB "nerfs + echo included", which means T6-8 mainly as T9 is NOT nerfed (I'll go back at it later)
    I apologize, I muddled some of your arguments with another poster who was indeed asked for a soloable coil because, "it was goofy". If we set in stone now that you mean Coil1 and Coil2 as it is now, then I'll put that in my frame of mind when arguing you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    As for bolded part, I never said it either. T8 now isn't a walk in the park, and while learning it it still takes a fair amount of time. Without echo, many groups wouldn't be able to get through too (I've seen a few fail the timer with current echo and i120 gear)
    Not sure who you are DFing with, but when I did it, we actually screwed up the whole final phase and still were able to get a win. Or are you talking about Ballistic Missile which isn't too hard to figure out, especially if you have done Ramuh which follows the same chain of responsibility mechanic. Also, below you are talking about T5 and T9 being "not nerfed" cause it was just echo, but what was even done to T6 and T8? Blighted had it's damage lowered (a stat nerf like echo) and T8 had all the damage nerfed (again echo). The only difference with T6 was you didn't have to hold DPS, and if you are saying that is hard, /facepalm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    Assumptions again. I didn't go into savage yet (important part) because I have other things to do, and they take up a lot of my play time. I play by priorities, and right now, my priorities are going to FCoB to know the end of the story I've been fighting for for such a long time, getting my magiteck rod, and that's about it. I don't have time for more. Gonna judge me ? You're free to do so. I'm free to despise your attitude.
    So again, you are proving my point. The story is the major carrot on the stick here, that pushes you through content. Replace "motivation" with "bigger priority" then. Also lol, again with trying to make it out like I am judging you or something. I am stating that this is how content works, not that you are shitty or something. But please, keep acting like I care that you didn't clear Savage or not (wow, I'd have to be judging like 95% of raiders)... I guess framing it as an attack on yourself is easier than an attack on your argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    Echo doesn't help for instant kill mechanics. It's not because said mechanics happen less that they are nerfed. You're trying hard, but echo is NOT a nerf to the fight. Else why bother getting rid of ADS's paralysis ? Or T6's bouquet ? Or T7's petrification ? There should be no need, it's already nerfed according to you.
    Oh... my... god. Echo is not a nerf to a fight? What are you even talking about? So when your tank get's hit for 6-8k by Raven's Beak and they now have 3k more health to absorb that damage, you are saying it did no difference? That can be a life and death situation if the healers are not topping health up. What was your tank's health pre-echo and post-echo? Do you turn off echo buff when doing fights? It shouldn't make a difference then, cause it "doesn't nerf content".

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    oh wait, I only said that T5 and T9 weren't nerfed. What happened to T1-4, T6-8 ? They don't matter anymore ? Or maybe they aren't Coil anymore.
    You only said they aren't nerfed by a backwards notion that a stat buff to all characters in not only damage; but healing power and defense "isn't a nerf".

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    So I'll ask you again :
    If the devs didn't want people to clear it more easily and with complete stranger, without vocal chat or anything, why would they nerf the Coil, aside from T5 and T9 (being the sole exceptions) ?

    Didn't they just want everyone to be able to enjoy the story ?
    If they wanted people to "just complete the story", then the difficulty would be on par with story mode dungeons or trials, not what it is now. If they wanted it to "just be part of the story", you wouldn't have people like yourself STILL complaining post nerf. T5 and T9 were nerfed, plugging your ears and going "ECHOISNTNERF, ECHOISNTNERF, ECHOISNTNERF" over and over doesn't change that fact.

    If "echo isn't a nerf" is the crux of your argument, well there isn't any point to keep going on that subject since the whole thing comes down to that. You are wrong, but I don't think any evidence I put forward will convince you otherwise so we will leave it at that.
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    Last edited by Magis; 02-23-2015 at 01:44 AM.

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