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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    that's what I don't understand why the raiders don't want SE to implement a story mode Coil. if they make 2 separated modes for it they wouldn't have to nerf Coil 1 & 2 every 3 months. now they don't want people to have story mode Coil and also complain about how Coil 1 & 2 got nerfed.
    Because the story is part and parcel of the content. For many people, they raid because they want to see the cutscene at the end. Add a "story mode"? Well good job, you cheapened the reward for everyone cause a small minority couldn't put the effort in to complete already nerfed content, or were too impatient to wait until it was nerfed. Now those players who would have raided for the story have lost all motivation to actually do the content. Woops, you now shrunk the amount of people doing the content itself. This was noticed already in WoW where people who used to raid stopped because the story was just given out for free.

    This isn't even including the fact that it's watchable on Youtube right this moment, so a game changing nerf isn't even required!

    What is your argument? It's not like the story is hidden from you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    Well said. Way too many people place their videogame skills on a high pedestal like they mean anything. If they didn't measure their self worth on how well they raid, they'd realize a story mode would not affect them at all.
    lol, I'm sorry but even casuals can complete coil, skill has nothing to do with it. It makes me chuckle that you have this strawman in your head when people who do coil aren't any different than those who do not.
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    Last edited by Magis; 02-20-2015 at 06:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magis View Post
    Because the story is part and parcel of the content. For many people, they raid because they want to see the cutscene at the end. Add a "story mode"? Well good job, you cheapened the reward for everyone cause a small minority couldn't put the effort in to complete already nerfed content, or were too impatient to wait until it was nerfed. Now those players who would have raided for the story have lost all motivation to actually do the content. Woops, you now shrunk the amount of people doing the content itself. This was noticed already in WoW where people who used to raid stopped because the story was just given out for free.

    This isn't even including the fact that it's watchable on Youtube right this moment, so a game changing nerf isn't even required!

    What is your argument? It's not like the story is hidden from you.
    how is that cheapen the reward of the content? will you get mad if other people can watch the cutscenes too? or you'll feel like you're not an elite anymore?

    if they do it like the story primals, there will be no item drops in the normal mode so you raiders can do the extreme mode for your loots.

    it's a win-win situation unless you think that casual players watching the cutscenes will hurt your feeling for some reason.

    and that same old argument.... "the content is there! why don't just do it!?". don't you realize that many people can't do it due to the difficulty of the content? or you just want to ask to make fun of people who can't do it? it's like saying why can't everyone beats Ninja Gaiden Sigma!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    how is that cheapen the reward of the content? will you get mad if other people can watch the cutscenes too? or you'll feel like you're not an elite anymore?

    if they do it like the story primals, there will be no item drops in the normal mode so you raiders can do the extreme mode for your loots.

    it's a win-win situation unless you think that casual players watching the cutscenes will hurt your feeling for some reason.

    and that same old argument.... "the content is there! why don't just do it!?". don't you realize that many people can't do it due to the difficulty of the content? or you just want to ask to make fun of people who can't do it? it's like saying why can't everyone beats Ninja Gaiden Sigma!?
    See reply to Moqi.

    and that same old argument.... "the content is there! why don't just do it!?". don't you realize that many people can't do it due to the difficulty of the content? or you just want to ask to make fun of people who can't do it? it's like saying why can't everyone beats Ninja Gaiden Sigma!?
    If it's too difficult, then better yourself or quit. You aren't getting the fact that as end-game content, it isn't suppose to be easy, it isn't suppose to be one-shottable like literally every other piece of content in the game. Also another poster with the victim complex crap, cut that shit out. No one is making fun of you. Maybe if you didn't put yourself down so much or act like everyone was out to get you, you'd actually try and complete the content.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moqi View Post
    My Coil gear is worth whatever time and effort I put into obtaining it and only that. No one can alter it in any way.
    Good for you! However, you are not in an isolation bubble, even though people would like to try and turn the game into that.

    Quote Originally Posted by FranSeara View Post
    You guys still talkin' about this.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    Its old, let it go.
    Yeah at this point it's just going in circles. Think everything has been said already.
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    Last edited by Magis; 02-20-2015 at 07:09 AM.

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