It's about time to add Coil story mode, isn't it ?

[FranSeara]

Someone's missing the point here. I think what some people really want is to "Just see the Story" without the goofy Coil fights. Some players don't care about Coil,raids, raid groups, statics and endgame stuff. Some players just wanna enjoy "The Story of the Game" without the hassles of joining groups or static or silly coil battles not meant to be beaten or enjoyed by MOST of the player base. These types of players won't try coil without nerfs or easy story modes. Why?, maybe they got family and a real life. We'll never know. Well...I don't mind an easy/story mode coil, who's it hurting. No one. And its kinda silly to withhold story and lore has a Reward in a RPG, in fights many players never get to try. You do get gear as a Reward right??? Why isn't that good enough for you?? when we get Alex the old coil will left in the dust forgotten, why not share the story then?

[Magis]

Someone's missing the point here. I think what some people really want is to "Just see the Story" without the goofy Coil fights.

It's called Youtube.

[FranSeara]

It's called Youtube.

Why should other player be treated like 2nd world/ 2nd Class Citiznes? If this is how you think, its kinda sad. I may cancelle my sub after reading your $%#%%#% statment. I dont wanna part of you New World Order.

[Magis]

Why should other player be treated like 2nd world/ 2nd Class Citiznes? If this is how you think, its kinda sad. I may cancelle my sub after reading your $%#%%#% statment. I dont wanna part of you New World Order.

Ok, stop with the victim complex. You are given the same chance as everyone else, in fact Square made it even easier for players like you. If you only care about the cutscene at the end, go watch it on Youtube, instead of bitching on the forums because you don't want to put any effort.

"Second class citizen", pfft cry me a river. The freaking feeling of entitlement of players these days. You are not entitled at all to anything in this game without putting some effort it. Most of the stuff is easy, and some is hard, but regardless you have to do X to get to the reward, be it gear or cutscene.

The only person wanting to be a "second class citizen" is you who wants to make an exception because they don't want to put in the effort like everyone who did complete coil had to.

Don't want to put in the work? Then go watch it on Youtube.

[FranSeara]

Ok, to everyone here who qouted me. I'm not going to waste my time tryng to change your already set minds about OLD cutscenes (many of which I've seen already) I just would like " Other not so lucky players be able to enjoy the game I love with, ALL story/lore OPEN to everyone who can complete say a small easy quest. Also, I have many thing to hang my hat on so I'm not so worried about your silly uninformed statments about my game'ing. And Magis "telling someone to go do ANYTHING is down right !@@$ of you.

Guys, stop being so A**hurt about cutscenes in a Video game. You dont OWN them or have any right to play keep away with them. Let the Devs make that call. If we get a "Cutscenes only first and second coil in the future, no one will have any rights to say other wise.

I myself would like a Solo coil mode.
Goodnight guys

[Almalexia]

You dont OWN them or have any right to play keep away with them. Let the Devs make that call. If we get a "Cutscenes only first and second coil in the future, no one will have any rights to say other wise.

I myself would like a Solo coil mode.

If I had a little sister, I bet you would sound like her.

[Truga]

It's called Youtube.

Obviously it isn't since SE is taking down said youtube videos?

[Ophie-Mio]

Someone's missing the point here. I think what some people really want is to "Just see the Story" without the goofy Coil fights.

Calling the fights goofy isn't very generous given that a lot of them are just like every other fight in this game. Just a little different with a different tweak. You don't hear people complaining about the EX primals nearly as much even though their fights are far "goofier."

Some players don't care about Coil,raids, raid groups, statics and endgame stuff. Some players just wanna enjoy "The Story of the Game" without the hassles of joining groups or static or silly coil battles not meant to be beaten or enjoyed by MOST of the player base.

The thing about coil is that there are numerous threads that state you don't need raid groups/statics or much interest in endgame to do it. I do it so I can have pretty gear. I didn't originally join any statics for that. I just went into learning parties and then clear parties.
And I always wonder about statements like that...not meant to be beaten or enjoyed by most of the player base...
When I look around my server and the people who do WoD and the other Crystal tower stuff, I see High allagan pieces everywhere. Nearly everyone has at least one piece (yourself included, Fran). So obviously it is meant to be beaten with some effort and it's enjoyed by a lot more. Just because you don't see their point doesn't mean others don't.

And its kinda silly to withhold story and lore has a Reward in a RPG, in fights many players never get to try.

And this is their fault. The entitlement of the "casual" rivals that of the "elitists", I swear. I made it to FCoB without a static and given by the pugs we pick up every week, there are others too. SE isn't withholding anything from anyone. People are withholding it from themselves. Even if you have time obligations that pull you away from forming a static, you can pug learn it and pug win it. It just takes effort. Why should you get everything without any effort?

And to everyone who shrugs it off with "git gud" - okay. Alright. Take me on, teach me, and I promise I'll try my hardest to.

While I won't say "git gud" and leave you to your own devices, I repeat that I did not get anywhere with a static until recently. I literally stopped sitting around with friends the instant I saw whatever learning party I needed was up. I jumped on it. I made friends put up PF because I was too shy to do it myself. We learned.

Someone else shouldn't be responsible for taking you under their raider wing and teaching you. I understand that you'll try your hardest and I'll see it but I won't be the person to randomly start a learning party to teach newbies. If you want it, you have to work for it. Ragequitting and such is a fact of all MMOs, don't let it define the path you take as a gamer within this community.

And no, don't tell me to go watch guides, it's not damn cooking.

It's not. It so truly is not. I can watch a guide and still fail in under two moves and get us killed in the pull. However, watch a guide and you won't be left standing around, twiddling your thumbs, when you have the Shriek icon next to your name in T7. It's not the job of others to make sure you're informed of the fight. There should be an expectation of completion when you go into DF and you won't get that if you know that people come in completely blind to everything. People who just didn't bother. The mechanics in the fight aren't supposed to be learned in one go... Just like the primals for relics, you'll end up on the floor and carried at best. At worst? You'll cause wipes again and again.

Watch a guide so you have a clue. If I see improvement, I personally won't get upset. If others rage, then they fall under the category earlier of people who are just always a problem. I can say that in a majority of the SCoB DF parties I've been in, as long as people didn't come in completely raw and seemed like they were getting it, we kept at it.

Also kinda hypocritical when on the other side I'm just yelled at when I want to watch the actual in-game cutscenes.

I started this game last April... To date, the only time I've ever seen anyone yell at others for watching cutscenes is Praetorium and Castrum. Both those places are different beasts if you watch the cutscenes. From what I've seen, people are fine enough letting people watch the cutscene their first time in BCoB and SCoB. It's a given that you watch them in FCoB.

Bottom line, imo, it was just a bad decision to begin with, to put such an integral part to the main scenario in the hardcore endgame raid.

I'm gonna have to disagree here. Not because of it being a bad decision but it being considered so integral. The story is cool, yeah, but it's literally not mentioned ANYWHERE else besides while in Coil or unlocking the next one. Everyone in Eorzea (including the Scions and the twin Alphinaud) go about their days completely not mentioning a thing about what you learn down in coil. It's practically noncanon.

I've played and watched all of the cutscenes to the main scenario. The EX primals have more to do with it than any coil. They never wonder what happened to certain people, they never mention Bahamut, they never do anything. It's not a part of anything main story wise. It's just another piece of a different story.

[Almalexia]

Someone's missing the point here. I think what some people really want is to "Just see the Story" without the goofy Coil fights. Some players don't care about Coil,raids, raid groups, statics and endgame stuff. Some players just wanna enjoy "The Story of the Game" without the hassles of joining groups or static or silly coil battles not meant to be beaten or enjoyed by MOST of the player base. These types of players won't try coil without nerfs or easy story modes. Why?, maybe they got family and a real life. We'll never know. Well...I don't mind an easy/story mode coil, who's it hurting. No one. And its kinda silly to withhold story and lore has a Reward in a RPG, in fights many players never get to try. You do get gear as a Reward right??? Why isn't that good enough for you?? when we get Alex the old coil will left in the dust forgotten, why not share the story then?

If anyone's missing the point, it is you.

In video games, the cutscenes and content aren't two discrete elements separated by a wall; the cutscene is an extension of the content. They reinforce each other. You have a stake in the cutscene because you were responsible for it. For this reason, the cutscenes are as much a reward for clearing the content as the loot. Watching a video of the cutscene (like others suggest) robs you of the satisfaction of earning it in the same way as giving away loot.

Loot will come and go, but you will remember well-fought victories with your friends. I still vividly remember clearing CoP 6-4 and that was almost a decade ago.