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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barboron View Post
    oh! Also, against OP's idea, how could this even tie in with the story? You're a warrior of light and can't even defeat Twintania with a 20% echo buff? Thanks for the offer but I'll find someone else to save the world.
    superiority complex much ? Your beloved "Warrior of light" titles hasn't anything to do with the coil to begin with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyanna View Post
    What good are 'friends' if you can't be honest? I'm in a static with a healer buddy and if he does something bad, I tell him, and if I mess up, he tells me. I tell my own husband that he needs to improve if he's not doing what he is suppose to.
    some just want to play with friends, without the stress of the results. There are no leaderboards in FFxiv. Things should be done for fun rather than for the sake of doing them. Yet again, if your fun is to clear shit, you can go full force at it

    Quote Originally Posted by Teryaani View Post
    I don't raid, so from my point of view the next turns of coil are a waste of development time that should have gone toward housing.

    How's that sound?
    almost as horrible as the other argument, but this debate isn't even resolved since they added gardening (ain't anyone got time to program that when there aren't enough raids to do ? )


    seriously, everyone should be able to find fun in the game to their heart's content
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    almost as horrible as the other argument, but this debate isn't even resolved since they added gardening (ain't anyone got time to program that when there aren't enough raids to do ? )
    That's the reason I made it. I don't begrudge raiders from having coil or others having content that I don't play. This game isn't about a single play style and without the variety, none of it would exist. I get sick of the raiders uber alles crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    superiority complex much ? Your beloved "Warrior of light" titles hasn't anything to do with the coil to begin with.
    In no way have I considered myself superior to anyone in any part of my post. I simply made point that you are a warrior of light, as in most Final Fantasy games. A warrior infused with the light of the crystal....and can't beat Twintania? Now, usually when I see a thread similar to this, it doesn't come down to the specific player's skill. It's more so their willingness to form a party/static and taking a leading role. It's quite common for people to be a little unsure or hesitant to tell someone in a party "Sorry, but we just can't do this with you." because it seems that when someone tries to convey such a truth, they are branded an elitist, even if they are trying to be as polite as possible. When this occurs, it seems more common for the party to just disband instead of dismissing the player until they are ready.

    On top of that, T5 has been out for a very long time. There are numerous resources when it comes to learning the mechanics. As for DPS checks, healing, tanking, HP requirements etc., it's quite difficult to not meet these with how accessible i90 gear has become and beyond that with also the echo buff stacked on. Again, the only issue is mechanics.

    A common argument to this is that people do not have the time to work and play enough to learn the mechanics, but if a player has been playing since launch and still hasn't beaten T5 and is using the same excuse, how much have they tried to learn? How many videos have they watched? How many questions have they asked to a player of a similar role?

    Going into any fight and wiping time and time again is simply not enough to learn. While players may experience the fight, they won't necessarily understand the mechanics and why or how something happens and that's wherein the issue lies. On top of that, if a player comes in with little to no knowledge, as I have seen happen, it means at least 7 people having to spend their time in running them through the fight.

    At the end of the day, it's an MMO. It's not meant to be cleared as quickly as your common run of the mill single player story game. If you want your story mode without the challenge, youtube still remains. If you don't find the challenge of the fight any fun, why do it to begin with? That's an honest question. If the only part you are after is the cutscenes and story line, no doubt someone has made it all available somewhere and you won't even need to purchase the game. Although in saying that, there is more to the game then the battle contant. Such as crafting, mini games, RPing, whatever you may enjoy.
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