For the first time since PS3 beta...

[ruskie]

Just wanted to put this in about parties using voice chat...
I was recently in a ram ex PF that when we enterted the instance the leader poped a TS link and pass(I responded that I don't have TS) and that was that... the level of coordination between these people was horrible. I had seen better coordination from a DF than from them. I had people running after me with thunderstorm(and I was closest to the tank so nowhere much to run anymore) instead of going to a less crowded place. I died multiple times because of overlap either normaly or when charmed.

So yeah... voice chat won't help bad players be decent.

[Spetsnaz]

Funny, I wish I could Find PF groups that require TS

[Sparktacus]

Funny, I wish I could Find PF groups that require TS

See it pretty often on Gilgamesh, I also put it mine when looking for fill-ins for the week.

[tocsin]

Someone even told me, "If you can't afford to get TS access, you don't deserve to play." They might be right.

There is a small bit of truth in this. You can get a really cheap and crappy pc or laptop for as little as 20-50 dollars depending on where you are. matter of fact, looking on craigslist, people are literally GIVING AWAY pcs for FREE that are capable of running ts. if you really cant afford that, then you probably cant afford to pay a subscription for ffxiv. you need to focus on bills more.

OP just literally spent almost a grand on expensive hardware. not having ts access is unacceptable, and someone that cares that little about his gameplay experience is detrimental to my gameplay experience.

[Arcsol93]

Going to say this since I've seen this many, many times. When something goes wrong for a person they feel the need to vent, and say they are never doing so and so again. And then after a few months after the tantrum has left their system they come back to play anew (Usually as a new character as well)

Definitely not the first, and certainly won't be the last. We'll see you soon.

[Aussir]

I ask those people if it's ok. I even link proof, but they still say no. As for devices, I was fine on PS3. Spent money to upgrade to PS4 for PS4 chat, but not many use it. PS4 plus an iPhone 5C that later was damaged was already enough money spent to get into content. I....just can't spend anymore; I pay my bills solo.

Someone even told me, "If you can't afford to get TS access, you don't deserve to play." They might be right.

1 - Find nice players instead of jerks.

2 - Stop wasting money on crap (500 for a phone... really? What are you trying to do? Keep up with the Jones?).

3 - Pay your bills and other necessities in real life and THEN worry about the game.

4 - Get a PC/Laptop

[Baneus]

Hmm, looked through the entire thread and couldn't see

[SDaemon]

There is a small bit of truth in this. You can get a really cheap and crappy pc or laptop for as little as 20-50 dollars depending on where you are. matter of fact, looking on craigslist, people are literally GIVING AWAY pcs for FREE that are capable of running ts. if you really cant afford that, then you probably cant afford to pay a subscription for ffxiv. you need to focus on bills more.

OP just literally spent almost a grand on expensive hardware. not having ts access is unacceptable, and someone that cares that little about his gameplay experience is detrimental to my gameplay experience.

Going to chalk that up to you being sarcastic, otherwise you just made yourself look like a fool.

[Skotie]

I ask those people if it's ok. I even link proof, but they still say no. As for devices, I was fine on PS3. Spent money to upgrade to PS4 for PS4 chat, but not many use it. PS4 plus an iPhone 5C that later was damaged was already enough money spent to get into content. I....just can't spend anymore; I pay my bills solo.

Someone even told me, "If you can't afford to get TS access, you don't deserve to play." They might be right.

You should reply to them "If you need TS access in order to do content, you should stop playing altogether."

[SalemP]

Why not try to find a group or FC that doesn't require TS? Why quit the whole game over this? Or is this something YOU want? If that's the case, then idk. I haven't done any of the higher level stuff yet (ie: coils) but I can't see why not using TS would make this impossible. If everyone in your group uses it except you, then yeah I can see that being a problem, but then like I said just find a new group that doesn't use it.