Healing/Tank on PS3 or PS4

[Fellisin]

don't play healer on the consoles. switching between enemies (to kill them) is a breeze. switching between party members (to heal them) is a nightmare.

Switching between party members on a controller is very, very easy. Simple press up and down on D-pad to select party member to heal. That's it, it is that easy.

[radioactive_lego]

Switching between party members on a controller is very, very easy. Simple press up and down on D-pad to select party member to heal. That's it, it is that easy.

No. It isn't. not in comparison to switching enemies. Think about what is involved to switch; I have at length.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-customization.

Perhaps I have an affinity for not wasting time and cramping my hands with needless button presses.

[Ignnis]

don't play healer on the consoles. switching between enemies (to kill them) is a breeze. switching between party members (to heal them) is a nightmare.

No. You literally press up and down on the d-pad. It follows the party list so you know exactly who you are targeting and who you are about to target. You can also target someone, cast cure then move up and down and select someone else while cure is casting, have cure hit the original target then immediately cure the next person. Takes 0 time and 0 effort.

PS4 tanking however is a bit more annoying, the tab system likes to troll you and target everything but the thing you need ofc. In large pulls if you explain you're on the ps4 people are usually understanding if you can't provoke something immediately.

For hotbar layout, this mostly applies to tanks, I tend to have skills Ill probably end up using while moving e.g. Flash, Shield Lob, Scorn etc on the triangle, square, circle and cross buttons. Basically skills that I can use without having to take my thumb off the joy stick. All I can really say is practice makes perfect, you'll be slow at first but if you keep doing it you'll get faster

[Bixby]

The ease of doing some things on a controller is increased or decreased based on whether you're using Hold, Mixed, or Toggle mode for hotbar activation. I think most people use Hold and forget the other modes exist. Targeting party members is definitely one of the things affected by it.

[RuruKun]

Healing isn't too bad on the controller, but I play DPS as a second class and found that targeting with a controller to be a little harder because of the cycling through which targets you wanna kill first. And God forbid if there were any teeny tiny objects in the way that could give the "Target not in line of sight" message when clearly the boss is bigger than the whole room itself in a dungeon

I learned that the hard way lol.

But I'll be switching to mouse and keyboard once I upgrade to PS4, just to try it out.

[Fellisin]

No. It isn't. not in comparison to switching enemies. Think about what is involved to switch; I have at length.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-customization.

Perhaps I have an affinity for not wasting time and cramping my hands with needless button presses.

Yes it is. It really really easy to select a target to heal with in a party. You use the D-pad (without holding in any of the shoulder buttons) and select up and down to select a target within your party list. No needless button pushes needed.

It's NOT hard to heal with a controller.

I main as a healer on a ps4. Only time I find it a pain to heal, is healing outside a party in pve. But that can be helped with the use of macro's and changing the targeting preferences when your weapon is drawn.

[ebuu]

some examples of my macros

/micon "Aero II"
/ac "Aero II" <tt>
/ac "Aero II" <t>

/micon "Cleric Stance"
/ac "Cleric Stance" <me>
/crosshotbar change 3

then switches to DPS crossbar

/ac "Stoneskin" <1>
/wait 3
/ac "Stoneskin" <2>
/wait 3
/ac "Stoneskin" <3>
/wait 3
/ac "Stoneskin" <4>
/wait 3
/ac "Stoneskin" <5>
/wait 3
/ac "Stoneskin" <6>
/wait 3
/ac "Stoneskin" <7>
/wait 3
/ac "Stoneskin" <8>

aswell i have activated that i only switch betwen c3 and c4 with R1 (DPS and Heal)
very usefull

images of Crossbars

http://imgur.com/22YSyID
http://imgur.com/KrFD8Gx
http://imgur.com/oir7vBw


aswell you can change in option what targets you can select when weapon drawn

just check NPC and Party member , so you will never accidently target any shit when weap is drawn, easier for healers then

[radioactive_lego]

Yes it is. It really really easy to select a target to heal with in a party. You use the D-pad (without holding in any of the shoulder buttons) and select up and down to select a target within your party list. No needless button pushes needed.

It's NOT hard to heal with a controller.

I main as a healer on a ps4. Only time I find it a pain to heal, is healing outside a party in pve. But that can be helped with the use of macro's and changing the targeting preferences when your weapon is drawn.

You must have ignored the reference. I clearly explained how it takes 10+ button presses to cast Stoneskin on 3 people. Even if you heal (as Bixby mentioned) you are constantly holding down shoulder buttons to cast and releasing to select party members. There is no need to hold/release when targeting enemies, therefore it is the easier, less complex option.

Silly logic going and ruining arguments.

[Fellisin]

You must have ignored the reference. I clearly explained how it takes 10+ button presses to cast Stoneskin on 3 people. Even if you heal (as Bixby mentioned) you are constantly holding down shoulder buttons to cast and releasing to select party members. There is no need to hold/release when targeting enemies, therefore it is the easier, less complex option.

Silly logic going and ruining arguments.

Repeating the process of pushing a d-pad and selecting a target, then holding in L2/R2 + whatever stoneskin set to, 4 times is not difficult. It is an easy process which is merely repeated. Repetition of a simple process doesn't make something harder, just tedious & ebuu has shown a macro which can eliminate that process. So sorry that "logic" doesn't really hold much water.

Healing is slightly more targeting intensive than say DPS and Tanking, because of the constant switching between targets to place heals, taking debuffs off and attacking mobs in between heals. But this in no way makes it a "nightmare" on a controller nor hard just because you've got to press the D-pad more often.

I'm sorry that you feel healing is hard on a controller. But please don't try to put others off trying to heal on a controller.

[Ignnis]

You must have ignored the reference. I clearly explained how it takes 10+ button presses to cast Stoneskin on 3 people. Even if you heal (as Bixby mentioned) you are constantly holding down shoulder buttons to cast and releasing to select party members. There is no need to hold/release when targeting enemies, therefore it is the easier, less complex option.

Silly logic going and ruining arguments.

Surly you hold down buttons on the PC as well? Number of button presses =/= time spent healing. If someone is going to complain that it takes me an extra nano second to cast stone skin I think they need to get their priorities straight.