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    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    This might be a good read is you still think that morale should have a place in the PvP:

    http://www.gameskinny.com/1a2ix/carb...still-an-issue

    I am glad that SE choose to disable morale in the Frontline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    This might be a good read is you still think that morale should have a place in the PvP:

    http://www.gameskinny.com/1a2ix/carb...still-an-issue

    I am glad that SE choose to disable morale in the Frontline.
    Are you guys really not understanding I'm asking for Morale to be reworked to be a substitutionary primary stat for PVP purposes only?

    40 STR = 40 Morale, Morale replacing STR in PVP & on PVP Gear specifically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles View Post
    Are you guys really not understanding I'm asking for Morale to be reworked to be a substitutionary primary stat for PVP purposes only?

    40 STR = 40 Morale, Morale replacing STR in PVP & on PVP Gear specifically.
    All you say by such example is player with 0 morale have 0 STR?
    Maybe new player try PVP first time and 0 wolf mark and 0 pvp gear and join game with 0 stat benefit? Healer 0 MND and DPS 0 STR?

    I think is you who not understanding or not clear? OP very vague, no situation and only mention of switch function? If such case then I think better to stay with what is working now?

    Suggestion give is that Morale become STR? Put many without PVP gear at disadvantage? Maybe queue time become longer because nobody want to do as no PVP gear mean no stat for PvP.

    Am I right to say this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphione View Post
    Maybe new player try PVP first time and 0 wolf mark and 0 pvp gear and join game with 0 stat benefit? Healer 0 MND and DPS 0 STR?
    PvE Gear would still work in PvP.

    PvE Piece - 40 Str 30 Vit 30 Crit 30 Acc
    PvP Piece - 40 Morale 30 Vit 30 Crit 30 Det

    The PvP Piece is favorable b/c it doesn't have wasted points in Accuracy.

    However the PvE Piece is still viable as that 40 Str is identical to 40 Morale.

    Wear the PvP Piece in SCOB though & the Morale counts for nothing as it doesn't work in PvE.

    Main Stat works in both settings.

    Morale only works in PvP setting.

    Does this make sense now?
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    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toodles View Post
    PvE Gear would still work in PvP.

    PvE Piece - 40 Str 30 Vit 30 Crit 30 Acc
    PvP Piece - 40 Morale 30 Vit 30 Crit 30 Det

    The PvP Piece is favorable b/c it doesn't have wasted points in Accuracy.
    However the PvE Piece is still viable as that 40 Str is identical to 40 Morale.
    Wear the PvP Piece in SCOB though & the Morale counts for nothing as it doesn't work in PvE.
    Main Stat works in both settings.
    Morale only works in PvP setting.
    Does this make sense now?
    Unfortunately, there are several flaws in you suggestion:

    1. You have ignored the Wolf Den. Morale is the dominated stat in ilvl50 WD. A ladder is in planning once the PvP population reaching to the ideal amount. Your idea will open a howl to ilvl110 PvE gear to find the way in.

    2. The scaling of morale to the primary stats. How well does it scale? Also, what is the impact of ilvl110 PvE gear? Keep in mind, PvP gear is always one tier behind.

    3. Morale is a stat in combine of PvP power and PvP Resilience. PvP resilience is much more superior than any sub stat. You are creating unfair advantage that they are on purposely to avoid at the first place.

    4. You under estimated the accuracy. While it may not be the same in FF14, both Rogue and Ninja are evasion based jobs. There is high chance to see increase in importance of evasion and accuracy.

    5. PvP gear is actually a good choice for War and PLD (with ilvl100 str accessories).

    I think I will wait until 2.4 first. PvP gear is fine for just being a ilvl50 WD set. Frontline, morale does not have a place. This is my personal opinion, please feel free to express yours
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