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    Latest comment from Yoshida regarding Housing + Inventory space issue

    So today I attended TGS 2014 (me legs are killing me...) and I had the opportunity to personally talk to Yoshida.

    So I has asked him the question that a lot of people would want to task.

    'PERSONAL HOUSING!?'

    So I first started off by saying 'There was a chaotic response to housing earlier this week; what do you think about that?'.

    His response -

    'Hmm.. yes it certainly was. But, I have been telling people about the changes of information to personal housing through forums and letters. Though there was the initial information which was indeed vague'

    Me - 'I also looked forward to Personal Housing, but did not end up buying a house DUE TO IT BEING A LIL TO EXP' <-(I did slightly emphasize this, though in reality I do have enough).

    'We have come to the decision which is 2.38 in housing, by thoroughly checking the market and gil retained by players. We know how much each player has. Though it is expensive, I think housing should be an achievement where players work hard to earn the gil, it should take some effort to buy a house. Players who laze around should make some effort to make gil.
    If we make it anymore cheaper, it would cause problems to the game and market with RMT etc'

    Somewhere in there he also said that more plots will be added with 2.4.

    Also please note, this is from memory so it won't be correct word by word, but it is the gist of it.

    With this I think we know where Yoshida is heading towards with housing. An achievement which you worked hard for, just like with your relic chain quests.

    To be honest, I agree with him. Half the people I see complaining about housing request alternate gardening; to mass produce and sell onions for cheap gil I assume.

    Anyways take what you want from it.

    *Inventory*
    I also asked him about lack of inventory space. How I was leveling up all my crafts at the same time, leaving me with 4 full retainers.

    To simplify what he said -

    'We are working on a solution for that, but it is not as easy. So please bear with it for a little longer'

    EDIT-

    Day 2 of TGS - Results

    UPDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDATE

    *I just got back*

    Alright, I had another talk to Yoshida today at TGS. Unfortunately he was a lot more busier than yesterday so we weren't able to talk much, if at all.

    In regards to non-housing gardens and stables. No comment from Yoshida, there is nothing more to say about this right now. Sorry, but I don't have a clear answer on this one. Didn't have enough time to talk about personal inns.

    Though I did suggest rental stables and gardens using gil to rent a stable/garden for a certain period of time.

    Take what you want from this;;

    P.S I had a blast of a time, met up with Soken, Super Dry and Afro-bro. I'll post a SS of my super rare FATE drop later.

    P.S.S Sorry if you guys were waiting for a better answer. I wanted to get it for you guys... after I met him, I actually camped the SE booth to catch Yoshi off guard. But it was a wasted effort unfortunately.
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    Last edited by xXRaineXx; 09-21-2014 at 06:34 PM.

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    it should take some effort to buy a house. Players who laze around should make some effort to make gil.

    All I do is laze about all day /bombdance in Limsa and I still bought a house, with a hot tub, now I laze about all day in the hot tub. What annoys me is that he admits it was vague but didn't bother to correct it even with many posts repeating his "less than FC housing" claim, a complete lack of communication on his behalf, maybe he didn't want X many accounts quitting before 2.38 so he could show his bosses that people were staying to try 2.38 and housing...........
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    Didn't ask him about the possibility of having Private Inn Rooms?

    If everyone could have a room, without needing a Free Company that has a house already, I think a lot of the heat would die down. Only remaining issue would be Gardening in such rooms, but I believe that's something they're already working on, so whatever.

    I have absolutely no problem with the housing wards being a "Look how much Gil I had" d*ck waving zone, provided they give everyone an alternative. Alternatives is really what's causing a lot of issues with content lately... No housing alternative. No Allied Seals alternative. They started off giving us things like tomestones for literally everything, and now they're doing the opposite with new content... Kinda odd...
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    Hmm, I'm heading to TGS again tomorrow. I'll ask him more if I can.

    If there is anything that you would to ask *CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACKS ONLY*, I will see if I can jab more information outta him.

    Please keep the trolling to a minimum.
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    All the communicating he has done for this game... I think we can cut him some slack where this is concerned.

    They give us live letters for crying out loud... what other company does this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXRaineXx View Post
    'We have come to the decision which is 2.38 in housing, by thoroughly checking the market and gil retained by players. We know how much each player has. Though it is expensive, I think housing should be an achievement where players work hard to earn the gil, it should take some effort to buy a house. Players who laze around should make some effort to make gil.
    If we make it anymore cheaper, it would cause problems to the game and market with RMT etc'
    It really annoys me to see that he doesn't see that the main problem of the housing system is not the price but the limited access... if the housing was not limited and the house cost 4M well... you want one, you work for one... ok, that i can accept. But it is not the problem here, the problem is there is NOT ENOUGH house. Why someone would want to make 4M gils if you know for a fact that even with tenth millions gils you'll not have an house cause of the limitation...


    The last part about RMT, i'll not even comment that cause my vocabulary could become really rude >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXRaineXx View Post
    If there is anything that you would to ask *CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACKS ONLY*, I will see if I can jab more information outta him.
    A few things;

    Private Inn Rooms, obviously, for people without a Free Company/Free Company house.
    Towers and Parks - this was something mentioned in interviews way back. Was this changed into Free Company actions, or is it still planned as something similar to the Mogenhancements of XIs Mog Houses? Other than being there, houses do kind of lack a purpose...

    If you want to take the edge off, ask him why /hug doesn't cause the Wind-up Kobold minion to explode. At least, in the English client the flavour text for it mentions it exploding from tender hugs...
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    If you have a chance could you politely ask if there's any future possibility of increasing the amount of furniture able to be placed inside the houses? Namely the large plot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXRaineXx View Post
    Though it is expensive, I think housing should be an achievement where players work hard to earn the gil, it should take some effort to buy a house. Players who laze around should make some effort to make gil.
    If we make it anymore cheaper, it would cause problems to the game and market with RMT etc
    Earning gil is one thing and totally fine and good. Its when space gets factored into things its a problem. If spaces ain't there then all the gil in the world mannors to nothing more then a hill of beans. As far as the RMT is concerned, by altering the game based on RMT fears is silent admittance to already losing the battle against the RMT.
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    If we make it anymore cheaper, it would cause problems to the game and market with RMT etc'
    This response is getting old already. I still don't get it how SE can't end it. Why not concentrate on this problem first? does it mean housing can be entirely free without this lame excuse rearing its ugly head at your subscribers? I know someone will say its a very difficult problem to control, maybe even positive for SE profit wise. But tying every in game transaction to RMTs is suppose to be not our problem. I will even be happy if an entire expansion be a hunt that involves bringing down suspicious botters, gil sellers and cheaters in exchange for a log. Make gardening yields per harvest double/triple in amount and removing chocobo raising from FC housing will be an optional solution to this server limitation. All players need is not to have limited access in "every" aspect of the game.
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