Challenge vs. reward: turn 5

[Samsta]

If you can find a group to handle Titan/LEVI ex, you can find yourself people who can handle Divebomb/Twister.

Except that no one is doing T5, so finding one is really hard.

[LionKing]

So the problem you have is not because T5 is challenging, yet not rewarding but because you can't find capable people to do T5 with you? Maybe you should start advertise using PF instead of wasting your time queuing in DF. Asking around, shouting, looking for help are a good start. If it is hard, then start making it easier for yourself by you take the initiative. Nothing will ever change if you, yourself don't even give out your best effort to find a solution but rather demand something from someone else (aka, ask for better loot to have easier time finding people). I am pretty confidently sure to tell you this, people won't turn away from you when you ask for help in T5 if you prove yourself worthy enough for their time. It is not hard to find capable people for old contents, it is hard when you don't try and where to look for.

[SummonerSenah]

T5 makes me understand having a static. I just recently started to raid seriously and each time we've tried T5 we've had different people in the group so they end up learning parties instead of clear attempts. I'm pretty good with all the phases up to twisters, but I haven't had enough experience with twisters to pass that phase.

[Zophar]

Endgame by definition is supposed to be content in which you find yourself a guild, ls, fc, w/e of skilled players armed with the goal of bettering themselves in the game. This game is kind in that it allows the casuals a window into this content. But, there are risks involved in this, as there is in any game with any pug content. Endgame is something that the player is supposed to adapt to, not the other way around. This sounds harsh, but it's the truth. And yeah, on the subject of t5, if you can't pass it, you are not ready for second coil.

[Nutz]

I was in a small FC for a while and couldn't clear turn 5 because we lacked the number of skilled players to do it. Eventually I joined up with a very large FC and keep up with my old FC friends through LS (we already had a completely redundant linkshell anyway). It took me way too long to jump ship. Once I did, however, I found that nobody in my old FC cared that I left (I was playing much more often than them) and we still do things together anyway. Now, however, I can immediately ask a group of 300 people if they want to go run something. Not a day passes without somebody asking about running turn 5 or Titan EX or nearly anything else. Tons of people who have completed it before gladly jump in and help others get a clear.

There's virtually no downside to joining a large FC. People pretty much automatically help you because you're part of their group. The biggest downside I've seen is the constant FC chatter can distract me during boss fights sometimes.

[Adler]

I was in a small FC for a while and couldn't clear turn 5 because we lacked the number of skilled players to do it. Eventually I joined up with a very large FC and keep up with my old FC friends through LS
Now, however, I can immediately ask a group of 300 people if they want to go run something. Not a day passes without somebody asking about running turn 5 or Titan EX or nearly anything else. Tons of people who have completed it before gladly jump in and help others get a clear.

There's virtually no downside to joining a large FC. People pretty much automatically help you because you're part of their group. The biggest downside I've seen is the constant FC chatter can distract me during boss fights sometimes.

I am in a small FC where we don't even have 8 people ready for second coil and I still have to kill Titan ex though I did beat Leviathan and Moogle in first week after they got unlocked - Moogle died in 1st practice party and Leviathan took 5 tries to die because I couldn't get used to his jumps fast enough.
We actually lost some members that couldn't beat T5 and joined large FC in hope for a carry and guess what - couple of weeks later we got 2 decent players in PF group and beat T5 in 1st try. Those who left still haven't cleared T5.
So I prefer to be with people that I like and be the lame dude that beat most content only after addition of Echo rather than be just another random noob in large FC that spams chat in hope that someone will carry me through content.
About T5 itself - all you need to do now is:
1) when first neurolink drops - instantly run to safe spot and get ready for divebombs. I actually did find it hard to see where I am standing in safe spot so I removed other player titles and surnames for T5 in character settings to be able to see how close to the purple wall I am standing
2) get ready for 1st twister right after Twintania use Aetheric Profusion for 1st time

Conflag phase takes 1 min or less, Asceplius die no matter what and I think you don't see more than 2 dreadknights in the fight due to massive Echo boost and player item levels.

[KarstenS]

1) when first neurolink drops

Its the second, not the first.

2) get ready for 1st twister right after Twintania use Aetheric Profusion for 1st time

Important to know for healers: sometimes twinnie do death sentence before first twister.

[AxelDH]

I guess it could be nice if they added a rare mount or something to the drops on T5. Maybe add an item similar to Mirror of the Whorl that you can upgrade your Allagan weapons with too (Now with added glow!).

But I think that even if they did increase the rewards for T5, it wouldn't solve your problem OP, as most experienced players that want those items will stick with their experienced groups to farm it, rather than joining newbies.

[KarstenS]

Twintania drops a rare crafter mat.

[MrCookTM]

Yoshi P mentioned in an interview (Dengeki Online 19.08.2014) that he likes to increase original coil gear ilvl by 5 (making gear i95 and weapons i100) to keep it relevant. That specific interview was mostly about 2.4 stuff, so we might see this ilvl increase in just a few weeks from now.

With a little luck this acts as an incentive for experienced players to redo it to farm i100 weps for alt jobs since it's basically a 6 minute fight now with 20% echo and thus quicker than Ramuh EX (at least i suppose, cleared T5 but didn't do Ramuh EX yet).