Batraal Fight All Screwed Up.

[SirOleas]

Quote Originally Posted by Adam View Post
Once more thank you for proving that you can beat the boss with archers. We also used 2 archers as static dps on the boss. But I failed to see the melee dps on the boss at the end of the fight, proving my point. Your melee dps is standing idle on the sword debuff portal right? BTW I've already reviewed this video before. Next.

Yes you did.

[Adam]

I know what I said, and that's not a complaint. It's a question about your dps standing still like a duck, I was running the entire fight.

[SirOleas]

How was I trolling? I was giving advice in support of your apparent "question about your DPS standing still like a duck".
The answer being they were at the sword portal because they were supposed to be at the sword portal.....you know...removing the sword buff....

You can't even tell the difference between helpful information and someone trying to start an argument can you? Poor fool.

[Adam]

What are you doing right now?

[SirOleas]

Well, now I would be making you look like a fool.
Oh, and also answering your question about what I am doing right now.
I am also breathing air and talking on Ventrilo about beating Batraal with melee, and going to do it again tonight. Also discussing how silly you're being for being such a jerk in spite of all the information you have been provided.

So, what are you up to right now?...eh, Never mind what you're doing. I am hungry, time for dinner.

Cya later Adam Foolery

[Adam]

O ok, well make sure and get me a video of your melee dps actually doing something, before white knighting this thread again.

[Hikozaemon]

A similar discussion popped up recently on the Japanese forum, and so Mocchi brought it up with Matsui to get his feedback on the situation and see what changes are being considered.

• Front line damage dealers
  We will be making adjustments to some of the actions for pugilists, marauders, and lancers which will add a bit more damage. We're currently in the process of performing post-adjustment balance checks.
• Monster AoE attacks
  Many of the most damaging AoE attacks have a specific area that is affected, so by standing to the side or behind an enemy you can avoid the attack. I believe there is still some room for adding a bit more strategy to this, so let us monitor the situation for a bit before we decide how to address it.

With that said, we will be making adjustments to both classes and monsters in regards to these things.

Maybe if SEs only way of making a fight difficult didnt include adding rediculous aoe attacks then Boss attacks wouldnt be so one-sided and OLD like ff11. The few flaws of the ff11 battle system has shown through now w/ the dungeons w/ people training zones instead of killing mobs and people using ranged or kitting only on Bosses. It seems they never learned in the 9+years of ff11. Luckily i was in a ff11 LS that did things outside the box. Like straight tanking kirin even w/o zerg and actually used dragoons/pups and other unfavorable jobs at HNMs and did it in style and dominated at it.

[Hikozaemon]

At least they gave every melee class something feasible to throw in FFXIV. But it must be too disgraceful for melees to throw things at the enemies, because I hardly see anyone with that ranged slot filled.

w/ the crap range that these throwing weapons have its almost pointless u have to nearly get into aggro range of mob just to toss a ranged weapon and pull them. A farkin toddler can toss a stone more than 10 feet IRL why cant i throw one farther in ff14 so i can at least have a feasable way of pulling mobs during SP grinds because 30-60sec voke abilites arnt a good tool for this. throwing weapons should have the same range as bows period.......

[Efrye]

Dear SE,

After taking care of the unacceptable ghost problem outlined in the opening post, please also remove the skeletons. Being an archer, I can't fight them without a personal mage at all and instead have to cure others or stand on the circles while the more robust melees have all the fun. Unacceptable. I wonder if you meant this as a joke and are laughing about us archers right now! I am very disappointed. Bla bla.

PS: After redesigning the fight so that every DD has the same job, don't forget to add variety to their jobs.

[Physic]

Technically a lance and arrow would do the same amount of damage as generally both are piercing -- Though an arrow could actually do a bit more damage given trajectory vs polearm.

lol? a lance or spear should do way more dmg than arrow, due to it being closer and having better use of leverage/size. a arrow may pierce a small area on your body, a lnc, or spear will rip though a large area. A killing blow with a lance or spear is way more likely, however, you cant do much with it from 100 feet away.

Btw, i think people say that a spear is one of the deadliest weapons due to its combination of range, leverage and power, in skilled hands.