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  1. #11
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    Avarghaladion's Avatar
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    Avarghaladion Thaliiavas
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    I agree, but I'm concerned that the rate at which they tend to adjust things will exacerbate the situation. Atma always takes about the same time, depending on a player's luck. Animus and Novus are a bit faster now but not drastically so. When the people grinding their Nexus weapons right now finish them, it will be a huge difference to the point that I can't see many other players being in a position to finish the upgrade before the next one is released.
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    Ginga Kun
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    Thaumaturge Lv 61
    Main concern is "Can we have a progress bar or percentage(%) indicator" on our Nexus progress?

    Its a bit aimless/confusing to upgrade without any indicators
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    Tomba Labomba
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    Ragnarok
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    I guess, maybe happening in 3.0 or later, a lot of the upgrades since Zenith will be obsolete anyways. They can't keep them up and running all the time or people will fall way too much behind. And I doubt a new player finds it entertaining to grind his ass out directly after hitting Level 50. So my guess is: either the original Relict quest will be changed so it directly provides you with a weapon that's much higher than Level 90 or there will be a new quest sourrounding it.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avarghaladion View Post
    1. Anyone who didn't have their Novus weapon, or who didn't start farming light as soon as this patch hit, is at a serious disadvantage:
    I really enjoy time-attacking instances as all of us Novus owners burn through our upgrade but I am keenly aware that there will never, ever, EVER be this concentration of Novus owners in the game ever again. Right now, farming is fast and efficient.
    Why does no one get, spamming HM´s over and over for ~35 Hours is not the inteded upgrade path...
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    Lace Valeria
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    Well the "alternatives" that are in place aren't much worth anything anyways, and with Nexus being better than current endgame raid weapons, being good enough to clear Turn 9 means nothing. . . So why not just spam the HM primals? No rewards for skill here, apparently.

    Hell, does Sastasha ever give light bonuses? Might as well just do that.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by wicked-one View Post
    Why does no one get, spamming HM´s over and over for ~35 Hours is not the inteded upgrade path...
    Based on what? That's like saying spamming FATEs isn't the intended way to get Atma. Sure someone can just play like normal... but they won't have the Nexus done in less than a year. Certainly wouldn't be ready for subsequent steps in the questline.
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    Last edited by Avarghaladion; 09-29-2014 at 04:40 PM.

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    Adler Lett
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    Odin
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I have Novus for long time and so far have joined only one light farm group. Don't plan to to do it again because I didn't see any fun in repeatedly beating same hm primal over and over again. I feel much better when getting brilliant and blinding light in roulettes, some random light from maps etc - basically doing stuff like it was intended.

    Killing Garuda 100 times or things like that to get Nexus in couple of days simply isn't worth it because instead of having fun and enyoing the game you're wasting your time on exhausting, boring grind that nobody forced you to do.

    P.S.
    I have faint light when I check my Novus now so probably will take a couple of weeks to get Nexus by playing random dungeons, roulettes and maps
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    Last edited by Adler; 09-29-2014 at 05:33 PM.

  8. #18
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    Asny Rak'nys
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    Good. Let the light farm parties get lost... I'm fed up with people thinking that DF is their personal light spam tool. I want my drtrials back to having fun and not this get in... see half the people(DDs even) rush in and start attacking whatever boss before buffs or anything without saying a word or anything...

    I just wish SE would finally get rid of the ugly glow on the weapons already... it's not cool/nice etc... it's an eye sore. Give it an inner glow that will during the quest transform it into a completely new looking weapon(aka new model or a sligtly redesigned one etc...).
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruskie View Post
    Good. Let the light farm parties get lost... I'm fed up with people thinking that DF is their personal light spam tool. I want my drtrials back to having fun and not this get in... see half the people(DDs even) rush in and start attacking whatever boss before buffs or anything without saying a word or anything...

    I just wish SE would finally get rid of the ugly glow on the weapons already... it's not cool/nice etc... it's an eye sore. Give it an inner glow that will during the quest transform it into a completely new looking weapon(aka new model or a sligtly redesigned one etc...).
    Light farm parties disappearing would mean more DF farming, not less. DF is the refuge of the desperate for Nexus grind for when you can't get a party together on your server, as DF grind is ridiculously slow by comparison. The increasing scarcity of Light PFs is likely why DF is getting hit harder and harder.
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    Iron Llama
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    The older relic stages probably should get faster...

    I bought the game at release, but only really started playing a couple of months ago.

    I would say that most of the game has gotten much faster than it was at the start, from talking to the friends I play with. I am now iLvl86 - and only now do I have to start learning to play well. Everything else was a speedy cakewalk. Older content has gotten faster and easier, be it from tweaks the devs did ( the hunt system got me to up to iLvl86 soon after I hit 50 ) to the fact that the people you play with are all really well geared. This is fine, because it means new players get to where the action is if they play enough.

    Soldiery is much faster than relic grinding now, I think (stuck on atma). With newer stuff this will only become more so. As the player base grows, to keep relics relevant, they will need to speed them up.
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