Honest question: If every player/class/job is equal,who is unique? (Gameplay topic)

[Aegis]

Name any boss or HMN in XI and I'll give you a WoW boss that was a lot harder. Absolute Virtue doesn't count. XI was an easy game.

Pandemonium Warden

[Dwill]

Pandemonium Warden

I hope you're not referring to release Pandemonium Warden which was proven to be unkillable by BTL after fighting it for 18 hours but if you do, this is a two player game: vanilla release C'Thun.

[Aegis]

I hope you're not referring to release Pandemonium Warden which was proven to be unkillable by BTL after fighting it for 18 hours but if you do, this is a two player game: vanilla release C'Thun.

So they were both equally hard?


A quote from a BTL member btw: "None of us doubt that PW can be killed. We just call into question exactly what the development team thinks is reasonable from human beings,"

http://www.wired.com/2008/08/pandemonium-war/

So, it was killable, mathematically, but was too hard for players as human beings. Find a harder boss than that.

[Dwill]

So they were both equally hard?


A quote from a BTL member btw: "None of us doubt that PW can be killed. We just call into question exactly what the development team thinks is reasonable from human beings,"

http://www.wired.com/2008/08/pandemonium-war/

So, it was killable, mathematically, but was too hard for players as human beings. Find a harder boss than that.

Your arguing semantics here. It wasn't a matter of hard, it was mathematically impossible to kill within reasonable means.

I was in BTL as well so I knew about that whole incident, sorry to disappoint you. BTL thought it was possible to kill but we wouldn't have been surprised if they pulled another Absolute Virtue on this boss which was highly possible as well. Why do you think his mechanic was changed after that controversy ? That thing is what caused most of BTL's core group to just give up on the game.

Sorry but you should try another boss to answer Alkimi's question, one that is within reasonable means to kill and not a flat exaggeration.

[Aegis]

Your arguing semantics here. It wasn't a matter of hard, it was mathematically impossible to kill within reasonable means.

I was in BTL as well so I knew about that whole incident, sorry to disappoint you. BTL thought it was possible to kill but we wouldn't have been surprised if they pulled another Absolute Virtue on this boss which was highly possible as well. Why do you think his mechanic was changed after that controversy ? That thing is what caused most of BTL's core group to just give up on the game.

Sorry but you should try another boss to answer Alkimi's question, one that is within reasonable means to kill and not a flat exaggeration.

But one of those core group members said that the group thought it was killable. Why would you disagree with them?

[Dwill]

But one of those core group members said that the group thought it was killable. Why would you disagree with them?

BTL thought it was possible to kill but we wouldn't have been surprised if they pulled another Absolute Virtue on this boss which was highly possible as well. Why do you think his mechanic was changed after that controversy ? That thing is what caused most of BTL's core group to just give up on the game.

Look at the bolded part.That's not disagreeing with them.

I'm not going to sit arguing over semantics with you. Pandemonium Warden was a terrible answer to Alkimi's question and you know it. Now unless you have another answer, it just proves him/her right.

[Aegis]

Look at the bolded part.That's not disagreeing with them.

I'm not going to sit arguing over semantics with you. Pandemonium Warden was a terrible answer to Alkimi's question and you know it. Now unless you have another answer, it just proves him/her right.

I don't get your objection to it. It was a very hard boss. And semantics is the meaning of words. Which word are we arguing over?