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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    Didn't he say that separate teams were working on separate projects. Unless patch 1.19 contains new areas or that the redesign work for Eorzea hasn't started at all then i don't see why we can't get a few screenshots of some artwork.
    I think they mean that while those teams are all working individually, Yoshida himself (and other senior development staff) are always busy managing/producing the next content from all teams. Regardless of who works on the nitty gritty, the same people have to work on implementing it into the game, checking up on what they're doing, and presenting it to the players. The actual artists may not be busy with 1.19, but Yoshida and the rest of the people who would be able to actually post those artists' work for us to see are busy with 1.19.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Patch 1.19 contains new areas.

    So let's hype them before getting ahead of ourselves.
    Indeed lets start the hype train BEFORE information is available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shyd View Post
    Grid > Thanalan and Thanalan > Grid areas I think you can see a change, but you have to understand that the path there is in a canyon. So you enter the canyon in the forest and exit into a desert. Same with like Coerthas > Gridania, and Gridania > Thanalan. You can see the tops of the trees on the otherside of the canyon, mountain range.
    The zone into grid makes sense, since thanalan use to be a green area like black shroud. I just say they did the transition wrong
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    Honestly it's time for common sense. They've had amazing landscapes that people loved and these few artists who designed them. This has been the core of FF titles for over a decade. They tried to switch it up by putting new people in charge.

    Any sane person would fix the thing that didn't turn out well by using those artists that have been proven they can do it not only with good quality but exceptional awe-inspiring originality.

    It's better to use people who can do it than just go tell your AD "can you develop some imagination please?"
    Akihiko Yoshida was the art director. He is a veteran not unlike Tanaka with great titles under his belt. He failed miserably with the area design of this game. There's your common sense.

    Now new blood is used to turn this game around ,helmed by Yoshida and his team of other younger developers that have already proven themselves but have not as much experience. And they're doing better than the old farts at the moment.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    Didn't he say that separate teams were working on separate projects. Unless patch 1.19 contains new areas or that the redesign work for Eorzea hasn't started at all then i don't see why we can't get a few screenshots of some artwork.
    Just because there's separate teams doesn't mean they don't all work together. It's been explained time and time again,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    There's a VERY disturbing trend I see here posting images of forests and waterfalls. This is NOT what Final Fantasy series is about.

    I want to be absolutely clear here to show what SE can do with environments and how high we should set the bar for them to accomplish this task:

    Jaw droppingly gorgeous! http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/fi...ystal_lake.jpg

    Memorable landmark http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/mi...ages/amano.jpg

    Hauntingly alien yet beautiful http://cdn.inthegame.nl/wp-content/u...p1024527-1.jpg

    Detail but grand scale http://images.ffonline.it/img/data/m...ept_art_02.jpg

    Unexpected colors http://www.firingsquad.com/games/fin.../images/34.jpg

    Who could forget http://everyview.files.wordpress.com...-cover-art.jpg

    Medieval didn't always mean boring for SE http://www.jakerowell.com/blog/wp-co...ign_alter5.jpg

    Further proof of the above also my favorite http://animewallpapers.lt/albums/nes...tasy_IX_06.jpg

    At best the environments turn into symbols of the entire theme of the game http://files.myopera.com/D4rk%204ng3..._Alexandre.jpg

    Even the most boring FFX area looks better than your average XIV rock formation http://animated-wallpaper.org/wp-con...mbnails/21.jpg


    Then to my main point:

    THIS http://ve3dmedia.ign.com/images/05/8...-02_normal.jpg

    This sure as I breathe cannot be turned into a memorable place by snuffling few trees around and making this field have few more waterfalls as rest of the game.


    We should NOT be asking SE for specific landscapes by sending them photographs of the real world. They need complete 100% artistic freedom to mold the landscape to be of Final Fantasy series quality.

    I say they should take all the time in the world they need to make XIV match their latest FF titles visually and only implement it when it's ready.


    If they just re-color few of the Gridania trees to be more brown in few areas that will definitely make me uninstall this game for good because I see a world like the current Eorzea when I look out of my window.

    I don't think we can ask for anything specific except to be surprised by the new landscape and to be compelled to explore it just to see what the next area even looks like.

    Unique environments is one of the key elements of the FF series and besides LL and Uldah I don't think this game lives up to it's legacy anywhere else.
    Dang, you got me drooling :P
    Those are some awesome pictures and previous work of SE. The first FFXIII is a beautiful scene indeed.
    and the dragon/city, etc. Some wild and thrilling imagination SE has.

    I sure hope they bring this creativity into FFXIV. It can sure turn the tables around.
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    Stupid question. Does the little crown icon next to the thread name mean a dev has posted in the thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by miqokini View Post
    Stupid question. Does the little crown icon next to the thread name mean a dev has posted in the thread?
    Yes to both.
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    A special SE friend showed this to me....

    Redesign

    He said keep it on hush hush... i just
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    XP remains the best teacher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jobeto-Rin View Post
    A special SE friend showed this to me....

    Redesign

    He said keep it on hush hush... i just
    Wow, is this for real? this looks like a better map!
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