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    Fyrebrand's Avatar
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    Chocobo Companion Issues

    So, this may be a newbie discovery, today I learned that:

    1) You can't queue in Duty Finder while a chocobo companion is out.

    2) You can't summon any other mount while chocobo companion is out.


    Are you kidding me!? What is the point of these restrictions? Honestly, the programmers at Square Enix could not figure out a way to make this feature a little more user-friendly?

    It's like the game considers my chocobo a member of my party, but won't let chocobos into instanced content, so the "solution" is to block Duty Finder. Really?? You couldn't figure out a way to flag chocobos as not "real" party members, and just dismiss them when I enter the duty?

    So, if my chocobo is a member of the party, I should be able to cast Protect on it, right? Oh, that's right, I can't -- because the game knows it's not a real player, after all.


    The only reason I can think of for why chocobos can't be out while using another mount, is that perhaps they thought it would create too many character models at once. But if that were really the case, they could have made the chocobo "companion" version disappear while mounted on something else -- you know, just like they do while you're mounted on it.


    It just seems like chocobo companions were either implemented in a totally incompetent fashion, or were purposely designed as a time-wasting inconvenience for players. Am I missing something? Is there a practical reason things had to be set up this way, or did the programmers genuinely not think ahead or realize what they were doing? To me, these mechanics are shoddy and unacceptable. This could have been a great feature, but because of how they implemented it I have barely any desire to summon a chocobo companion at all.
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    Last edited by Fyrebrand; 09-24-2014 at 01:45 PM.

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    Tonrak Totorak
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    Not a new discover people have complained about how their chocobo system is set. As of now its "working as intended" and who knows when they'll change the system.

    As it stands either you keep your chocobo out and not join DF or you wait for DF without your chocobo
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    Oh yeah, I realize it is not a new problem, and is indeed "working as intended," which makes it all the more ridiculous.

    Just thought I would also mention something I forgot: as this guy pointed out, the game doesn't even give you a warning message if you're in Duty Finder and you try to summon your chocobo companion. It just boots you from Duty Finder immediately. I also found that out the hard way, earlier today. "Fun."
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    Last edited by Fyrebrand; 09-24-2014 at 02:01 PM.

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    The feature could stand some improvement. So could your manners.

    I would suggest being kind and constructive in your feedback to increase the chances of being heard...and of having friends.
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    A true paladin... will sheathe his sword.

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    I get that you can't DF with Choc summoned - the choc is part of your party and no qualified for dungeons. But not being able to ride mounts while choc is summoned is a pita (it took them long enough to make it so that you could ride your choc while it was summoned)
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellFooled View Post
    The feature could stand some improvement. So could your manners.

    I would suggest being kind and constructive in your feedback to increase the chances of being heard...and of having friends.
    Sorry I did not sugarcoat the issue, but there was frankly very little in my post that was openly rude. I did word my opinions strongly, though the only part that might warrant a possible objection is my accusation that the implementation is either incompetent or deliberately designed to waste players' time. But frankly, those are the options. No one would purposefully make these mechanics interfere with Duty Finder like this, in the interest of making the best game they could. They either got lazy and didn't bother to fix some very major issues with their game, or they made it that way on purpose to pad game hours and extend subscription periods through grind for its own sake.

    We all paid for this game, and are paying subscription dollars every month. Time is literally money. So, when the company that charges for the game designs mechanics that needlessly waste my time in incredibly petty and arbitrary ways that could obviously have been avoided, it is rather insulting. Please note I have not put down the designers as people, made personal attacks, or trashed the game as a whole. I am speaking about the implementation of this one feature, and how it violently clashes with player enjoyment and progression. For these issues to have persisted for so long after release seems rather suspect, and I think I have a right to say so in my own words. If my post is the worst thing that Square Enix has to worry about today, I'd say they are doing rather well for themselves.

    And I don't see why you felt the need to comment about "having friends." I have friends. You do not know me at all. Ironically, that was the rudest thing in this thread so far.
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    Last edited by Fyrebrand; 09-24-2014 at 03:22 PM.

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    Yeah my main issue with this is not being able to have my chocobo out when queing. Today I was working on my miner while queing for my ARC. about 10 minutes in, I summon my chocobo because of all the mobs in the area agroing me, about half an hour later I think, "hope this is taking long", only to realize I was stupid for summoning my chocobo.

    It's frustrating because they push you to do horrible content like fates, you want to use your time wisely and farm during the 20 DPS que time, better remember not to summon that chocobo.

    I'd like them to be treated as a summon but gets dismissed when entering a dungeon.
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    Feel like I just went back in time to last year.
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    Remember when you couldn't ride any mount with the chocobo out? Even the chocobo? Good times
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    The only reason I can think of for why chocobos can't be out while using another mount, is that perhaps they thought it would create too many character models at once. But if that were really the case, they could have made the chocobo "companion" version disappear while mounted on something else -- you know, just like they do while you're mounted on it.
    That we can ride the summoned chocobo is already an improvement.
    If it is not enough for you, you can write a macro for it. But it would cost you more Gysal Greens.
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