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    MartaDemireux's Avatar
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    Hiraeth Petrichor
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    Don't forget that added DPS is also a direct increase in your enmity. The more you DPS the more enmity you gain. Look at it that way instead of a mitigation ability. It's a quick off GCD burst of added enmity when the DPS will be really hammering out their numbers to get the job done, making it somewhat easier to maintain the target's aggression, especially during a non-enhanced-enmity combo.
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    Player TheodoreMcIntyre's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartaDemireux View Post
    Don't forget that added DPS is also a direct increase in your enmity. The more you DPS the more enmity you gain. Look at it that way instead of a mitigation ability. It's a quick off GCD burst of added enmity when the DPS will be really hammering out their numbers to get the job done, making it somewhat easier to maintain the target's aggression, especially during a non-enhanced-enmity combo.
    Well sure, but the amount of enmity it actually adds is wholly negligible, practically nothing at the last 20% of a fight.
    I mean in my experience, in a fight like Levi EX or Ifrit EX, my aggro is already well-established at the 20% mark. The tiny amount of hate it generates at that point probably wouldn't even show up on the bar.
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    Last edited by TheodoreMcIntyre; 09-24-2014 at 04:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartaDemireux View Post
    Don't forget that added DPS is also a direct increase in your enmity.
    When one does not have enough enmity by the time the mobs reaches <1%.. Better call Houston. xD

    With several dots ticking, mobs just drop from 2% to 0%. I wouldn't mind a small change to MS to give it some better use.

    It does feel good when you time it perfectly, but it's a timed guess. I rather have something solid instead of RNG.
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    The art of using Mercy Stroke for healing reminds me of timing Ripostes/Parry in Dark Souls/Demon Souls. I get the most use of it in dungeons, the rest of the time it's just kinda there.
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    But you then also have to take into account that perhaps you weren't main tank for the fight and the healer derped letting the main tank die and you have to pick up where they left off. Any extra enmity at all is much welcomed then after the initial provoke, especially off GCD.
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    Player TheodoreMcIntyre's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartaDemireux View Post
    But you then also have to take into account that perhaps you weren't main tank for the fight and the healer derped letting the main tank die and you have to pick up where they left off. Any extra enmity at all is much welcomed then after the initial provoke, especially off GCD.
    That doesn't really make it a good tank skill. Even in that rare situation it's not like it still generates much aggro at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Warrlordd View Post
    It's a skill designed with PvP in mind, and has a minor use in PvE. Use it if you want. Or don't. No one cares.
    A PVP skill that was put into the game before PVP and isn't actually listed with all the PVP skills?
    Sacre bleu, mes amis!

    No, but really, go away if you're gonna be like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheodoreMcIntyre View Post
    A PVP skill that was put into the game before PVP and isn't actually listed with all the PVP skills?

    No, but really, go away if you're gonna be like that.
    And things like one-ilm punch(MNK) weren't designed with pvp in mind? or (and this one i really love) feint(DRG)?

    I believe my point still stands.
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    Player TheodoreMcIntyre's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrlordd View Post
    And things like one-ilm punch(MNK) weren't designed with pvp in mind? or (and this one i really love) feint(DRG)?

    I believe my point still stands.
    Uhh, alright, bro. Whatever gets your nuts to bust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheodoreMcIntyre View Post
    Uhh, alright, bro. Whatever gets your nuts to bust.
    Consider them busted.
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    I don't always pug, but when i do, it's with Pretty Ugly Guys

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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheodoreMcIntyre View Post
    A PVP skill that was put into the game before PVP and isn't actually listed with all the PVP skills?
    Sacre bleu, mes amis!
    Are you aware that the whole game and its classes were designed with PvP in mind from the start ? That's why all the classes are so balanced.


    On topic, I don't know if you play WAR often, but Mercy Stroke is a very useful skill in every situation and is really easy to time unless you have a burster in your team (DRG or BLM, choose your plague ;D ). You just have to remember the always-present lag that is present no matter how good your connection is, coming from your partners' action calculations on your own screen. If you hit the button when a mob is at 2%, I can 100% guarantee you you'll never have the heal unless your dps held the mob for you.
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