Please give us "harder" 4-man's

[Parz3val]

Like I mentioned before, statistical toughness is just one part of difficulty.

iLvl Sync alone just means we can't pull all the way up to the boss, that we have to slow down. It doesn't necessarily create "challenge".

It can however make a challenge more "challenging", so it works well for bosses (stress-test, have to endure mechanics longer or have more trouble surviving them, can't simply burn & ignore certain mechanics, etc.).

For trash which are mechanically simple or one-dimensional, it does nothing but cause people to pace themselves differently.

Mechanical additions are a must as well.

My simple example I think is a good one: 3 copies of the SV HM final boss all from the start, give them a new ability, & ilvl synced. Maybe empower the live one(s) when one dies. This might be too intense now, but you get the idea.

Or Brayflox HM first boss & final boss fought together mmm.

[Alukah]

I didn't say ilvl sync created challenge, what I meant is the challenge is already there, but people either skip or ignore it, it wouldn't happen with ilvl sync.

With the HP of an i80 caster dps they can barely take 1 hit from the last boss of SV HM, 2 hits meaning death, that alone would force people to pay attention and dodge, same with the debuff applied by the second boss of hullbreaker. For Amdapor the fight turns a bit harder when DPS are i55 and they have to break the healer out of the prison ASAP. And so goes the list.

[Catsby]

Extreme mode dungeons would be awesome. I would also like to see more open world stuff such as extreme mode treasure hunts or leves. If we ended up with a open world dungeon maps like ffxi's sky or dynamis I'm not sure I would be able to stop playing.

[Sessurea]

I'd like this as it would be easier to recruit for. Wouldn't even need to up the rewards, the challenge itself would be reason enough to take us back into these dungeons once we are capped and bored for the week.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I'd like this as it would be easier to recruit for. Wouldn't even need to up the rewards, the challenge itself would be reason enough to take us back into these dungeons once we are capped and bored for the week.

But how many are willing to do it?

[Parz3val]

Fair enough Alukah it definitely helps.

I just think a little more beyond that would be welcome.

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

my dream is that some day dungeon difficulty adjusts based on the parties overall iLevel on entry, that way if you are ilvl 55 or ilvl 110, the dungeon will always be challenging

[DenariusJay]

I like dungeons being easy - why does everything have to be hardcore? Want hardcore go raid or titan EX in DF...

[Parz3val]

I like dungeons being easy - why does everything have to be hardcore? Want hardcore go raid or titan EX in DF...

Optional...

[Ultimatecalibur]

I like dungeons being easy - why does everything have to be hardcore? Want hardcore go raid or titan EX in DF...

We don't want stuff that is Hardcore, we want stuff that is between the current "casual" dungeons and "hardcore" raids in difficulty.