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    ElHeggunte's Avatar
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaozK View Post
    Thats the notion i disagree with. Why does the tradeoff of low AOE for higher ST rule out the tradeoff of lack of range for higher ST? Because classes cant be bad at more than one thing?
    Okay, let's back up because I don't think we're on the same page. Why do you think it has anything to do with ranged attacks? We're not talking about an array of ranged attacks like a Bard, we're talking about one utility skill that would be similar to Dragoon's Piercing Talon. For that matter, do you think Dragoon does less DPS than a Monk because they have Piercing Talon in their arsenal? I personally think that it's very unlikely Dragoon traded DPS for Piercing Talon for the same reason(s) I don't think Monk's DPS has much to with their lack of a ranged attack. I have plenty of reasons for why I feel that way, I just don't feel like listing them out if I don't have to because I'm growing tired of getting off topic (in fact, I had listed them out, but it made this post more than 3x its current length so I removed them). This thread is supposed to be about a QoL change to a Monk's solo game, not the nuances of FFXIV's game and class design.

    And for the record, no one has said that a class can't be "bad" at more than one thing. There are plenty of things Monk has traded for high single target damage. We just don't believe a ranged pulling skill is one of them.
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    Last edited by ElHeggunte; 10-11-2014 at 03:00 PM.
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Shiva
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    Okay, let's back up because I don't think we're on the same page. Why do you think it has anything to do with ranged attacks?
    Oh dont get me wrong i dont. I just felt that the argument that monk is bad at AOE, therefore he cant be bad at X, was silly.
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    Leodaire Rochedalaix
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaozK View Post
    Oh dont get me wrong i dont. I just felt that the argument that monk is bad at AOE, therefore he cant be bad at X, was silly.
    That is a silly argument good thing it only exists in your head.
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    Joey Mi'ihen
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    I mostly soloed my way to 50 and I never felt like it was tedious to pull mobs with myself. And I don't recall many situations where I felt that I needed to pull mobs at all because there were too many in one area, except maybe a few fate camps.

    I wouldn't say no to a pulling utility skill though (only if it generated the minimum amount of aggro and had a timer long enough to prevent MNKs from pulling the whole vicinity to them quickly.)
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    Last edited by Joeymtl; 10-12-2014 at 03:53 AM.