Monk - Ranged "Pulling" Ability

[ChaozK]

At launch Black Mage had superior AoE damage in exchange for interrupted casts when they moved (which includes cast times) and lower single target ability. SE simply decided that Black Mage's single target was too low so they buffed it. It doesn't change the original design philosophy, it just means the developers decided their design didn't work so they adjusted it.

Your posts are irrelevant because they don't detract from what Rochedalaix said in any way. Also because Black Mage's single target buff has nothing to do with Monk's design, at least not in the manner you're trying to correlate.

Whatever the case may be, it still has nothing to do with this topic.

In his post he said, MNK has high single target dps because of low AOE and not lack of ranged dps. My post was meant to show a precedent that a class can have both high single target and AOE dps, so clearly when designing classes AOE isnt the only/main factor, which you even agreed on. Its because of many other factors aka lack of ranged attacks could very well be part of the designers mind when they decided on MNKs output. Stop arguing that it isnt relevant just because you dont like it, it frankly is.

Edit: To clarify, i am neither arguing for nor against the introduction of a ranged skill for MNKs, i'd actually gladly take it. I am just arguing against the scapegoat of MNKs low AOE as justification for all kinds of buffs, when there are more factors that play into balance.

[ElHeggunte]

In his post he said, MNK has high single target dps because of low AOE and not lack of ranged dps. My post was meant to show a precedent that a class can have both high single target and AOE dps, so clearly when designing classes AOE isnt the only/main factor, which you even agreed on. Its because of many other factors aka lack of ranged attacks could very well be part of the designers mind when they decided on MNKs output. Stop arguing that it isnt relevant just because you dont like it, it frankly is.

I know why you made the comparison, but you're trying to shoehorn the comparison into a topic where it doesn't fit. Rochedalaix said Monk traded AoE damage for single target damage, not give up a ranged attack. Which is true. You then go on to argue that Black Mage has both like that's supposed to invalidate what he said because... why exactly? It's not like he said a class can't have both (in which case you would have a point), he was merely correcting another poster's false assumption. Your response to that doesn't make any sense because it's out of place (and there are other things wrong with it too, but this topic has done enough derailing already).

Edit: To clarify, i am neither arguing for nor against the introduction of a ranged skill for MNKs, i'd actually gladly take it. I am just arguing against the scapegoat of MNKs low AOE as justification for all kinds of buffs, when there are more factors that play into balance.

But nobody's arguing for "all kinds of buffs". We're asking for a ranged attack so you don't have to pull a mob with your face. Your argument is all over the place. This revelation actually makes it worse.