Monk - Ranged "Pulling" Ability

[Rochedalaix]

It has everything to do with it, as I have explained before, since the only this this drawbacks affects is your solo content, and having a high single targets dps makes certain solo content easier, and not having a ranged ability makes certain content harder.



You are not really understanding my post that well, I argued against the argument that said that this is the only situation where a certain class only has a disadvantage in a certain area of the game, and I gave an example about other situation. The resource management part was just part of my example.




Yes, my point was exactly that there is no problem, and whm should not get any relief to it's mana problems, as monk should not get any ranged abilities. Also the chocobo DOES help even when you pull multiple mobs.

Your argument is silly because Monks having low AOE dmg, is the trade off for its high Single Target dmg not having a ranged attack.

[ChaozK]

Your argument is silly because Monks having low AOE dmg, is the trade off for its high Single Target dmg not having a ranged attack.

Surely thats why they buffed BLM single target dps to be almost on par with MNKs.

[Rochedalaix]

Surely thats why they buffed BLM single target dps to be almost on par with MNKs.

And this post has to do with what exactly?

[ChaozK]

And this post has to do with what exactly?

Seriously?

I am going to assume that you are aware that BLM AOE is quite strong. So them having the second best single target dps should make clear that mnks low AOE is not the reason why their single target dps is so high. If it was, BLM would be bottom single target dps.

[Rochedalaix]

Seriously?

I am going to assume that you are aware that BLM AOE is quite strong. So them having the second best single target dps should make clear that mnks low AOE is not the reason why their single target dps is so high. If it was, BLM would be bottom single target dps.

BLM's and MNK's are balanced around different concepts which is why your post has nothing to do with anything.

[ChaozK]

BLM's and MNK's are balanced around different concepts which is why your post has nothing to do with anything.

My post is relevant in the regard that MNKs deal high dps because of higher ramp up time and dependency on GL upkeep, not because of low AOE, just as BLMs deal high dmg because of cast time issues. AOE has never been a factor when it comes to single target dps.
Just because you dont see the connection doesnt mean there isnt any.

[ElHeggunte]

My post is relevant in the regard that MNKs deal high dps because of higher ramp up time and dependency on GL upkeep, not because of low AOE, just as BLMs deal high dmg because of cast time issues. AOE has never been a factor when it comes to single target dps.
Just because you dont see the connection doesnt mean there isnt any.

Having to manage a lot of buffs and positions is indeed part of why Monk's single target damage is so high. Monk's single target DPS being so high also is part of why their AoE ability is so low. Monk's high single target DPS no doubt plays a factor in their low AoE damage.

At launch Black Mage had superior AoE damage in exchange for interrupted casts when they moved (which includes cast times) and lower single target ability. SE simply decided that Black Mage's single target was too low so they buffed it. It doesn't change the original design philosophy, it just means the developers decided their design didn't work so they adjusted it.

Your posts are irrelevant because they don't detract from what Rochedalaix said in any way. Also because Black Mage's single target buff has nothing to do with Monk's design, at least not in the manner you're trying to correlate.

Whatever the case may be, it still has nothing to do with this topic. DPS, whether it be AoE or single target, has nothing at all to do with giving Monks some kind of pulling ability. Nothing. It shouldn't have been brought up in the first place, but that's what happens when people who don't know what they're talking about try to join a conversation.

You dont need it, and it would effect game balance. Get over it.

Monks being able to grab a mob from a distance won't change class balance. It won't impact class uniqueness. All it is is a simple quality of life change for leveling and solo Monks. How don't you get that? I swear half of you are arguing just because you can. Otherwise I can't wrap my head around why someone would legitimately think Monks having a ranged pulling ability would hurt the game in any way.