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  1. #31
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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    Lineage Razor
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    I remain unclear as to WHY there are so many people who are so vocally certain NIN's damage will be based on DEX? It's right there in the descriptions for the stats: STR for melee physical damage, DEX for ranged physical damage. NIN is clearly a melee attacker, so STR.

    COULD SE change this around? Sure. They can make NIN based on Piety if they wanted to. But why would they? Why add the complexity? "We know we told you STR is for melee, but we're making NIN DEX because... well... reasons..." The only reason I've found with even an ounce of sense is the fact that DEX is currently underutilized in the game - not enough reason in my mind to bend over backwards like this.

    Far more often, people argue that NIN should use DEX because Ninjas are dextrous (and MNKs arent?) or because that's how it's done in other games (not even worth addressing this argument; FFXIV is not other games, and it's CERTAINLY not a tabletop RPG).

    More on the topic for the thread, I plan to prepare for NIN by loading up on lots of metal and cloth. I probably won't bother with NIN myself, but SOMEONE has to earn a crapton of money crafting HQ gear for the ones leveling. It might as well be me! :3
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  2. #32
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    Sho Ryuuken
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    Excalibur
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    It's not that I'm against it being STR or not. In fact I don't really care either way. However the problem that I have lies in the fact that people just automatically assume that it will be STR, even going past the fact that Yoshi is on record saying that the team hadn't decided on what the stat was back then. It shouldn't be so hard to imagine another class utilizing DEX that's not a ranged job. No one knows how Ninja will work outside of what we are shown.

    We also don't know the precise calculations structure or algorithms they use to select what jobs use what stats, only that we know the current melee DPS use STR, and the one job that uses DEX is BRD. What if they classify dual wielding as a DEX based stat? What if they added an entirely new stat, such as AGI? No one knows.

    There's also the developmental data that was slipped into patch 2.28, which could mean anything. It could mean they planned (or are planning) on making DEX work with Ninja. It could mean that they are using DEX as a testing modifier for Rogue/Ninja abilities. They might have planned for it and still decided to go the STR route later on. They just wouldn't put it in game for no reason -- they have at least considered making Rogue and Ninja based on DEX.
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    Last edited by ZReport; 09-23-2014 at 05:59 AM.

  3. #33
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    Lanfear Sessurea
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    Odin
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    doesn't really matter anyways since all current gears will transcend to the junk tier at the same patch nin is released, when we'll get new coil, new tome gears and probably craftable ( meldable ) 110 gears.
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  4. #34
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    Lemuria's Avatar
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    Lemuria Glitterhands
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    My Ninja 'prep' consists of a singular goal. Get all my remaining jobs to level 50 before Rogue is released. I want the achievement before the bar is raised
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  5. #35
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    Sasch'a Maruhime
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    doesn't really matter anyways since all current gears will transcend to the junk tier at the same patch nin is released, when we'll get new coil, new tome gears and probably craftable ( meldable ) 110 gears.
    i110 is probably still going to be relevant for a while. Craftable gear will cost quite a bit since it will more than likely depend on new soldiery mats/having a supra or whatever new tool SE invents. Gear from the new Tome is going to take weeks to gather a complete set. and 3rd coil requires good rng/being able to down it which takes a couple of weeks for the general populace.
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  6. #36
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    Destinova's Avatar
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    Destinova Drakar
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    12 to 15 are useless it will share gear with MNK anyway ( or BRD for the Dex lovers )
    Until you realize they will be adding in the AGI stat as its main. Just my theory ^_-
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  7. #37
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    Mag Cotti
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    Offering my services as a tank for dungeon runs as they level. Paid service, obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    What we suffer is "the curse of knowledge". For new people, most of the dungeons after level 24 is considered "intense". For us, we just don't understand why newbies do not "get the mechanic" when everything is spelled out for you right in front of your screen... For them Brayflox is HARD ("you want me to Esuna all of you? move out of the way? and cure three people???), Sunken Temple is "ZOMG WTF was that", Cutter's Cry was "intense" and Titan "baby trial" was "fck this, I swear I ran and out of the train track from hell".

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mags View Post
    Offering my services as a tank for dungeon runs as they level. Paid service, obviously.

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  9. #39
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mags View Post
    Offering my services as a tank for dungeon runs as they level. Paid service, obviously.
    the most profitable thing in 2.4 no doubt :P , queues for dps 2h lol
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  10. #40
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    Shanvhere Kurosaki
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    I havent played the game in several months, it's not fun but plan to return when ninja comes out.
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    If pigs can really fly, I wouldn't care about anything else!!!

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