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  1. #31
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    DenariusJay's Avatar
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    Denarius Jay
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    And for some reason Turn 5 brings out the worst in people. Just keep at it. That's what I'm doing, and one day I will get that golden group of people who wont ragequit after 1 wipe and that understand the concept of progression raiding.
    That and Titan EX. Titan EX is turning into a nightmare for me in DF. I should prob transition into PF now that I know enough of the fight.

    Only thing videos are useful for is to iron out the kinks and to have some foreknowledge of the fight. Know where to stand, what are the 1 shot mechanics, what are the debuffs that you need watch out for, etc. I prefer too also go in blind for a few runs but lately I been watching videos cause I do alot of my runs in DF and yeah, if you start going in blind your gonna get kicked real quick.

    As far as who to watch, watch all of them. mrhappy, mtq, and other random on youtube give you the full flavor of the fight.
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    Last edited by DenariusJay; 09-23-2014 at 05:14 AM.

  2. #32
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    DarkStaoneDragon's Avatar
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    Dark Drakon
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I'd love to see someone say "Watch the fight video before doing this" in savage lol
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  3. #33
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    Curia_Regis's Avatar
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    Nozomi Harasaki
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkStaoneDragon View Post
    I'd love to see someone say "Watch the fight video before doing this" in savage lol
    Many videos exist for all turns of Savage Coil that you can use as a basis for building your strategy since many groups have cleared them now. Turn 8 for example, you can watch Turn 8 Savage and map out every tower and the order of mechanics and also see how that particular group chose to proc the towers.

    I don't understand your post, because videos are still used aside from those first true crusaders (the JP group who cleared everything first and then posted the video). Basically every Savage clear (with the exception of Turn 6) since the JP group has been based on their kill video, or inspiration was drawn from it in some way.
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  4. #34
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Souljacker View Post
    In fact - I believe that short notes as a reminder of mechanics is far better than trying to memorize a 20 minutes fight through youtube. This generation likes it. I get it.
    In practice, this is true. Even after watching a video people will typically still make mistakes and need to be reminded of how a mechanic works or where they need to be for it. I, personally, watch videos as I feel it's my responsibility as the tank to know the encounters and not cause too many immediate wipes - of course if no guides are out, I'll wing it (I will say that it's waaaay more fun to go in blind. Everything's a surprise and you have to stay on your toes). My boyfriend, on the other hand, never watches guides and manages to learn any fight as the mechanics happen around him. He has never caused a wipe.

    So, all in all, I'd say do what you feel comfortable with. If feeling out fights works better for you than watching videos, more power to you. I personally watch this channel for learning fights: https://www.youtube.com/user/LightAndMelon and I used to watch a guy named Dervy's channel, however he's quit the game and doesn't make videos for it anymore - if you'd like to check out his channel, though, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/user/KiraYakimi

    Also, MTQCapture seems like she makes great guides so I'd recommend hers as well. Happy's channel is kind of... a mess - he rushes all his guides out before fully exploring the mechanics of the fight and that's extremely lazy/uninformative.
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