Urgently Change your Approach SE

[ZReport]

and this is why the forums is a joke. someones so mad that make childish jokes and antics at anything someone says.

Should distance yourself from the forums then, you're not going to win any arguments with children. I've tried myself as well. They'll only believe what they want to believe, and flock to (and rate up) any troll joke that's made instead of have decent conversation.

The housing implementation, while a very big flop, is a a special scenario that will likely not happen again. They went with a software solution that can only be greatly solved with mainly hardware, and as such this was the result. Most everything else are software measures and will all be on time and well implemented projects. There's a great disconnect from the player's side -- they simply don't understand how technology and the development process works.

[Parz3val]

I said "I feel", in my mind that's non-concrete, not fact.

I feel it to be true doesn't make it to be true.

I think you're reading too much into the parts that are my personal opinion & not looking at the big picture of the post.

[Tashigi]

They really need a PTR (Player Test Realm) to test their stuff.
More often than not (Specially if you bother to watch the Live Letters), it feels like Yoshi and their team are totally disconnected.
They say they use the forums as feedback source but I am highly doubting they truly are and even if they were, it wouldn't be the best way to gather info.
If they're going to continue to copy WOW, then at the very least try and copy their testing process and add a PTR.

[Parz3val]

They really need a PTR (Player Test Realm) to test their stuff.
More often than not (Specially if you bother to watch the Live Letters), it feels like Yoshi and their team are totally disconnected.
They say they use the forums as feedback source but I am highly doubting they truly are and even if they were, it wouldn't be the best way to gather info.
If they're going to continue to copy WOW, then at the very least try and copy their testing process and add a PTR.

Yeah, peoples' arguments that a PTR would give players early advantages are silly IMHO.

You can, you know, have a restricted access PTR (like isolating content for testing such as a server stress-test for Hunts & the like).

Not every PTR has to give early, exclusive access to raid encounters, etc.

[Titor]

Yeah, peoples' arguments that a PTR would give players early advantages are silly IMHO.

You can, you know, have a restricted access PTR (like isolating content for testing such as a server stress-test for Hunts & the like).

Not every PTR has to give early, exclusive access to raid encounters, etc.

If they open PTR to everyone, there really is nothing stopping anyone from going and "practicing" encounters. There really is no exclusive benefits or unfairness there. I think that if they were to test things on a PTR they would have found that Twintania freeze bug early on, or seen how hunts are going to be mobs, and many other things.
To get people to play on it they could maybe offer small rewards like a minion for testing certain features for a set amount of time. Nothing game-breaking but enough to encourage people to test.

[cryptic_angel]

They really need a PTR (Player Test Realm) to test their stuff.
More often than not (Specially if you bother to watch the Live Letters), it feels like Yoshi and their team are totally disconnected.
They say they use the forums as feedback source but I am highly doubting they truly are and even if they were, it wouldn't be the best way to gather info.
If they're going to continue to copy WOW, then at the very least try and copy their testing process and add a PTR.

Even if they use the forums as feedback, the feedback provided is reactionary rather than it being proactive before the content hits live servers.

[Chiramu]

They really need a PTR (Player Test Realm) to test their stuff.
More often than not (Specially if you bother to watch the Live Letters), it feels like Yoshi and their team are totally disconnected.
They say they use the forums as feedback source but I am highly doubting they truly are and even if they were, it wouldn't be the best way to gather info.
If they're going to continue to copy WOW, then at the very least try and copy their testing process and add a PTR.

People don't test on PTR, they play PTR to see content before everyone else.

[Shougun]

I am actually a little concerned what they will do to golden saucer if housing prices mean anything. "Enjoy a mini game for 500K!" lol

Sounds like a stupid concern but so is not implementing an instanced housing system XD.

Both the chocobo and housing system could have been so much more imo, I hope they relook into both as time goes on. They're not the worst thing ever and I will definitely live lol, but It is not something I'd put on a pro list for why someone should come and play, other games have done it better.

[Seif]

I am actually a little concerned what they will do to golden saucer if housing prices mean anything. "Enjoy a mini game for 500K!" lol

Sounds like a stupid concern but so is not implementing an instanced housing system XD.

Both the chocobo and housing system could have been so much more imo, I hope they relook into both as time goes on. They're not the worst thing ever and I will definitely live lol, but It is not something I'd put on a pro list for why someone should come and play, other games have done it better.

Chocobo racing I'm guessing will just be another cutscene without any actual racing. Calling it now.

[Bluevann]

Yeah, this last patch dealt a severe blow to my trust in SE.

And it's not even just housing.

Chocobo raising for example, that is not the name they should've used to what they gave us. We do not "raise" a chocobo. We simply train an already adult chocobo. And even there, it's just a cutscene with some exp in the end. Not even a mini-game. The coloring system is retarded too.

They should've given us the opportunity to breed chocobos and rise actual chicks, raise them via mini-games that would determine thier color, and have such color be an heritable trait for their offspring and so on. It's not hard and it wouldn't require multiple chocobo whistles either: simply put a window to choose which chocobo you want your whistle to call.

Instead it's just all about spending gil to buy things to rise a chocobo or gardening to make those items yourself, maybe buying the soil since it's difficult to get without a gathering class, etc.

And how about all those lv1 armors with nothing but vanity purposes? Why must they ALL come from super rare materials that drop in endgame dungeons and require a master crafter to make them? Do shops in Eorzea seriously not have civilian clothes, or are adventurers simply banned from them? Why do I have to have a ilvl110 DoW/DoM and a lv50 crafter class to get a damn lv1 t-shirt?

I'm not saying everything should be handed over to us, but as of now it feels all the content a casual non-raider player would enjoy requires huge amount of gil to be made first. Please break this vicious cycle.

At this point, I have very terrible expectations of how Gold Saucer will turn out to be.