How raids have hurt this game.

[Junpei]

SE is a corporation that needs to make a profit. So no i doubt they are working at their own pace especially when yoshi-p is barely getting any sleep. They need to fix the game fast or the game becomes unprofitable and there is no reason to invest in an expansion. Remember, MMO's only have a certain number of years before they are outdated.

I think its amazing you think the art team responsible for superficial UI teams has any input or ability to change other aspects of the game, can you not imagine a 100 man team split into small teams with jobs of their own to accomplish, and to meet the needs of the players, they cant just move artists into coding.

so whilst you see "oh a ui change for the action bar, they are wasting time" what do you think that 20 minute fix by someone on the art team detracted from really?

[Azurymber]

I think its amazing you think the art team responsible for superficial UI teams has any input or ability to change other aspects of the game, can you not imagine a 100 man team split into small teams with jobs of their own to accomplish, and to meet the needs of the players, they cant just move artists into coding.

so whilst you see "oh a ui change for the action bar, they are wasting time" what do you think that 20 minute fix by someone on the art team detracted from really?

it was probably a lot more than 20 minutes, and the point is if you have something thats broken you don't pretty it up. You FIX IT, then make it look nice. Otherwise you get one of 2 things. Either future UI coders are limited by the artwork, or you have to do new artwork.

[Felis]

it was probably a lot more than 20 minutes, and the point is if you have something thats broken you don't pretty it up. You FIX IT, then make it look nice. Otherwise you get one of 2 things. Either future UI coders are limited by the artwork, or you have to do new artwork.

They are fixing the action bar UI, not only make it nicer. It's not their fault that you're playing with mouse and keyboard and not with controller to see the issue of the current action bar.

[Azurymber]

They are fixing the action bar UI, not only make it nicer. It's not their fault that you're playing with mouse and keyboard and not with controller to see the issue of the current action bar.

it kinda is their fault... given that this is a PC game and not a console game.

[Pulseczar]

it kinda is their fault... given that this is a PC game and not a console game.

It's mainly a console game made specifically for the PS3. It being on the PC is just a perk. Though I do agree that there should be a separate PC UI. Unfortunately they made the mistake of not only releasing the game too early; but also releasing it on the PC first. There is nothing we can do to change on how it was released.

[Madoka]

I'm going to let you in on a secret.

They spent a year and a half fixing XI before bringing it to the rest of the world.

[OJtheLIONKing]

I'm going to let you in on a secret.

They spent a year and a half fixing XI before bringing it to the rest of the world.

That doesn't make it okay.

Back on topic, the raids are awesome, but the OP's points are pretty right on. I'll let the long time FFXI players in on a little secret too: grind parties are not a viable alternative for modern MMO players to actual content. And yes, the game does need those "casual" types (don't get me started on that term) to succeed, because that's where the market is. I'll say it again, if you want to do FFXI grind all day, play FFXI, it's still around.

[Evtrai]

That doesn't make it okay.

Back on topic, the raids are awesome, but the OP's points are pretty right on. I'll let the long time FFXI players in on a little secret too: grind parties are not a viable alternative for modern MMO players to actual content. And yes, the game does need those "casual" types (don't get me started on that term) to succeed, because that's where the market is. I'll say it again, if you want to do FFXI grind all day, play FFXI, it's still around.

By modern MMO's we are speaking of WoW clones right?